Problem in orienting two plates as instructed in question

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The discussion revolves around the electric field generated by two large, parallel metal plates with opposite surface charge densities. The original poster seeks clarification on the orientation and implications of the electric field in various regions: to the left, to the right, and between the plates.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants explore the definition of regions relative to the plates, questioning how the electric fields from each plate interact in different areas. There is a focus on understanding the symmetry of the electric field and the implications of infinite plate assumptions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, raising questions about the nature of electric fields, the effects of distance, and the distribution of charge on the plates. Some guidance has been offered regarding the superposition principle and the behavior of electric fields from infinite planes, but no consensus has been reached.

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There are ongoing discussions about the assumptions of infinite plate size and the implications for electric field behavior, as well as the distribution of charge on metal plates. Participants express confusion about how these factors influence the electric field in various regions.

  • #31
gracy said:
Sorry
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You can move away the bases of the cylinder to a longer distance, still the same field line will cross them. The flux does not depend on the length of the cylinder.

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  • #32
But from where is cylinder coming up?We were talking about plane/plate,right?
 
  • #33
gracy said:
But from where is cylinder coming up?We were talking about plane/plate,right?
And applying Gauss' Law.
 
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  • #34
I know electric field due to uniformly charged infinite plane sheet is E=σ/(2ε0).Is this formula applicable always whether the sheet is conducting or non conducting?
 
  • #35
gracy said:
I know electric field due to uniformly charged infinite plane sheet is E=σ/(2ε0).Is this formula applicable always whether the sheet is conducting or non conducting?
If a uniformly charged sheet is infinite then, by symmetry, the component of the electric field parallel to the plate is zero everywhere. It does not matter whether the plate is conductive or not -- uniformly distributed charge will not flow to become non-uniform.
 
  • #36
jbriggs444 said:
It does not matter whether the plate is conductive or not -- uniformly distributed charge will not flow to become non-uniform.
So I can use the formula E=σ/(2ε0) in conducting as well as non conducting sheet,right?
 
  • #37
gracy said:
So I can use the formula E=σ/(2ε0) in conducting as well as non conducting sheet,right?
please say "yes"
 
  • #38
ehild said:
The superposition principle says that you can calculate the resultant field of several objects separately, as if the other objects were not there, and then sum the individual fields.
The why when dielectric is placed between the plates of capacitor there is decrease in electric field between the plates?
 
  • #39
gracy said:
The why when dielectric is placed between the plates of capacitor there is decrease in electric field between the plates?
Decrease with respect to what?
 
  • #40
ehild said:
Decrease with respect to what?
I meant electric field between the plates is less when dielectric is placed between them than when it is not.
 
  • #41
gracy said:
I meant electric field between the plates is less when dielectric is placed between them than when it is not.
Supposing the capacitor is connected to a battery. You insert dielectric between the plates.What happens to the electric field?
 
  • #42
gracy said:
I meant electric field between the plates is less when dielectric is placed between them than when it is not.
It happens because of the dielectric polarization. If instead of a dielectric, there were a conducting material, all the field would vanish.
 

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