Problem with calculating eigen vector for 2*2 Matrix

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The discussion centers on calculating eigenvectors for a 2x2 matrix and clarifies the necessity of using an augmented matrix. Participants confirm that for eigenvalue problems, particularly with 2x2 matrices, an augmented matrix is not required since the equation results in a zero vector on the right side. The eigenvalues identified are λ1 = -5 and λ2 = 1, with corresponding eigenvectors derived without the use of an augmented matrix. The consensus is that augmented matrices are only necessary when the right side of the equation is a non-zero vector, which is not the case for eigenvector calculations. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the simplicity of solving eigenvalue problems for smaller matrices.
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Homework Statement


r1= 2 7
r2=-1 -6

Homework Equations


A-lambda*I=0
(A-lambda*I)*x=0

The Attempt at a Solution


I have got following eigen values:
lambda1 = -5 and lambda2=1

A-lambdaI matrix is:
r1 = 7 7
r2 = -1 -1

and x matrix is:
r1 =x
r2 =y

I can't understand why we have to use augmented matrix in this case.
Some body please guide me.

Zulfi.
 

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zak100 said:
I can't understand why we have to use augmented matrix in this case.
Probably because it is how it is taught by your teacher. You will have to solve ##\begin{bmatrix}2&7\\-1&-6\end{bmatrix}\cdot \begin{bmatrix}x\\y \end{bmatrix}=\lambda \cdot \begin{bmatrix}x\\y\end{bmatrix}## for ##\lambda \in \{\,-5,1\,\}##. How you manage to do this is your choice. Just make sure, that your procedure will do good work for ##5 \times 5## matrices as well.
 
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zak100 said:

Homework Statement


r1= 2 7
r2=-1 -6

Homework Equations


A-lambda*I=0
(A-lambda*I)*x=0

The Attempt at a Solution


I have got following eigen values:
lambda1 = -5 and lambda2=1

A-lambdaI matrix is:
r1 = 7 7
r2 = -1 -1
Here ##\lambda = -5##.
zak100 said:
and x matrix is:
r1 =x
r2 =y

I can't understand why we have to use augmented matrix in this case.
You don't have to use an augmented matrix here, since the right side of your matrix equation is the zero vector.
In a nutshell, you have ##(A - \lambda I)\vec x = \vec 0##
In matrix form, with ##\lambda = -5##, this looks like
##\begin{bmatrix} 7 & 7 \\ -1 & -1 \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} x \\ y \end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix} 0 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}##

You could do this using an augmented matrix, but since the right side of this equation is the zero vector, it won't change. Just row-reduce the matrix on the left side to find the eigenvector that is associated with ##\lambda = -5##. Do the same kind of work for the other eigenvalue and its eigenvector.
zak100 said:
Some body please guide me.

Zulfi.
 
Hi,
Thanks. I don't have any clear directives. But I would use one which is simple.

lambda1 = -5 and lambda2=1
For λ1 =-5
AX = -5[x ]
y
Now,

[2 7 ] * [x] = [-5x ]
[ -1 -6] [y] [-5y]
Now 2x + 7y = -5x-------(1)
-x -6y = -5y-------(2)

From (1) 2x+5x = -7y => 7x = -7y There μ1 = [-1 ]
1
From (2) also, -x -6y = -5y => -x = y There again μ= [-1 ]
1 For λ2=1

[2 7] * [x] = 1* [x ]
[ -1 -6 ] [y] [ y]Now 2x +7y = x +> x = -7y, Therefore μ2[=[-7]
[1]

Again, -x -6y =y Therefore μ2 =[-7]
[1]
Verify:
A* μ2 = λ2[x]
[y]

[2 7] * [-7] = 1 * [-7]
[-1 -6] [1] [1]

-14 + 7 = -7 (true)
7-6 = 1(true)And for μ1:

A * μ1 = λ1 * μ1

[2 7] * [-1] = -5 * [ -1]
[ -1 -6] [1] [1 ]

-2+7 = 5(ture)

1 -6 = -5(true)

Thanks for teaching me.

Zulfi.
 
Hi Mark44,
You are right. My answer is same even if I don't use the augmented matrix. I think for 2*2, we should not be using augmented Matrix. Is it correct?
We will use the augmented matrix if (A - lambda* I)x (where x is a vector) = b (where b is a vector), but we may not get such a case in 2*2?

Zulfi.
 
zak100 said:
Hi Mark44,
You are right. My answer is same even if I don't use the augmented matrix. I think for 2*2, we should not be using augmented Matrix. Is it correct?
You don't need an augmented matrix for 2 x 2, 3 x 3, etc.
zak100 said:
We will use the augmented matrix if (A - lambda* I)x (where x is a vector) = b (where b is a vector), but we may not get such a case in 2*2?
When you're finding eigenvectors, you don't need an augmented matrix.

From the definition of eigenvalue/eigenvector, if ##\lambda_1## is an eigenvalue with associated eigenvector ##\vec{x_1}##, then ##A\vec{x_1} = \lambda_1 \vec{x_1}##, or equivalently, ##(A\vec{x_1} - \lambda_1 I)\vec{x_1} = \vec 0##.

##A\vec{x_1} - \lambda_1 I## is the matrix you're working with, and since the right side of the equation is the zero vector, you don't need an augmented matrix. You would only need an augmented matrix if the right side happened to be a nonzero vector of constants, which it never is when you're finding an eigenvector.

Also, your work in finding the eigenvectors agrees with what I found.
 
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