Problems with Electric Field questions

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The discussion revolves around finding the point on the x-axis where the net electric field is zero for two charged particles, specifically with charges q1=1x10^-9C and q2=2x10^-9C, which are positioned 20cm apart. The original poster expresses frustration over a discrepancy between their calculated answer and the book's solution.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to set up the equations for the electric fields generated by each charge and equate them to find the point of zero net electric field. They express confusion over their results compared to the book's answer. Other participants suggest simplifying the problem by substituting q2 with 2q1 and note the presence of quadratic equations in the calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering simplifications and insights into the equations involved. There is recognition of potential miscalculations, but no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final answer has been reached.

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The original poster's calculations involve multiple steps and adjustments, indicating a complex problem-solving process. There is an acknowledgment of the challenge in handling the equations, which may contribute to the confusion experienced.

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Homework Statement


Find the point on the x-axis where the net electric field is zero for two particles of charges q1=1x10^-9C and q2=2x10^-9C. Assume q1 and q2 are 20cm apart. Assume q1 is located at x=0.

I solved this but it's not the same as the book's answer.. GAH! What do you guys get? Thanks.

Homework Equations


Enet=E1+E2, Enet=0 => |E1|=|E2|

E=kq/r² where q is the charge creating the field

The Attempt at a Solution


E1=kq1/r²
E2=kq2/(.2m - r)²

kq1/r²=kq2/(.2m - r)²
q1/r²=q2/(.2m - r)²
q1(.2m - r)²=q2r²
q1(.2m - r)²=q2r²
q1(0.4m-0.4mr+r²)-q2r²=0 <------ There's my mistake
(q1)0.4m-(q1)0.4mr+(q1)r²-q2r²=0
(q1-q2)r²-(q1)0.4mr+(q1)0.4m=0
((1E-9C)-(2E-9C))r²-(1E-9C)0.4mr+(1E-9C)0.4m=0
(-1E-9C)r²-(1E-9C)0.4mr+(1E-9C)0.4m=0
(-1E-9C)r²-(4E-10C)mr+(4E-10C)m=0
(-1E-9)r²-(4E-10)r+(4E-10)=0
r=-0.863325 or r=0.463325

The answer in the book is 8.3cm. Where did I go wrong?
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Edit:
q1(.2m - r)²=q2r²
q1(0.04m-0.4mr+r²)-q2r²=0
(q1)0.04m-(q1)0.4mr+(q1)r²-q2r²=0
(q1-q2)r²-(q1)0.4mr+(q1)0.04m=0
((1E-9C)-(2E-9C))r²-(1E-9C)0.4mr+(1E-9C)0.04m=0
(-1E-9C)r²-(1E-9C)0.4mr+(1E-9C)0.04m=0
(-1E-9C)r²-(4E-10C)mr+(4E-11C)m=0
(-1E-9)r²-(4E-10)r+(4E-11)=0
Positive r comes out to 8.3cm
 
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do you realize that Q2 has charge two times of Q1? Simply suibstitute Q2 with 2Q1 and cancel out the Q1s and your equations will appear much simpler.

I managed to simplify the equation into a quadratic equation offhand. You should arrive at a quadratic equation.
 
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Right, you can see:

(-1E-9)r²-(4E-10)r+(4E-10)=0 before I found my mistake and
(-1E-9)r²-(4E-10)r+(4E-11)=0 after I found my mistake.

Those are quadratic equations.
 
to tell you the truth, I was actually too lazy to go through those equations. It was a pain for my eyes hah.

But the point is if you know that your steps were correct, that means somewhere along the line you had a simple miscalculation.
 

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