Producing current from sun magnetism?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of generating electrical current from solar magnetism using long wires positioned on Earth's surface, particularly at the poles. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings of electromagnetic induction and the conditions necessary for current flow in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a tethered experiment that produced current from a wire moving in Earth's magnetic field, suggesting a similar effect could occur with solar magnetism on Earth.
  • Others question whether the phenomenon being discussed is current or voltage, emphasizing that a potential difference alone does not guarantee current flow without a closed circuit.
  • A participant describes the mechanism of electron flow in tethered satellites, noting the role of the ionosphere in facilitating current, while expressing skepticism about the availability of electrons on Earth's surface.
  • Another participant proposes that electrons could be sourced from salty solutions or by closing the circuit with additional wire, while also questioning the strength of solar magnetism at Earth's distance from the Sun.
  • Concerns are raised about whether a compass would align with the Sun's magnetic field at a distance of 1 AU, indicating uncertainty about the influence of solar magnetism at that range.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of generating current from solar magnetism on Earth, with no consensus reached on the strength of solar magnetism or the mechanisms required for current flow.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the availability of electrons on Earth's surface compared to the ionosphere, as well as the need for a closed circuit to achieve current flow. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the strength of solar magnetism at Earth's distance from the Sun.

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Several years ago Tethered experiment demonstrated that current can be produced by a long wire moving in Earh orbit, due to Earth magnetism.
Being Earth inside Sun magnetosphere, wouldn't it be possibile to accomplish same task in a long wire properly positioned on Earth surface? Possibly at poles, where I as far as I understand solar magnetism is less shielded by Earth's one.
 
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You sure it is current and not voltage?

If you have a conductor moving in an uniform magnetic field, there would be a potential across its ends, however no current can exist.
 
Curl said:
You sure it is current and not voltage?

If you have a conductor moving in an uniform magnetic field, there would be a potential across its ends, however no current can exist.

as far as I unerstand, current flow was allowed by discharging the excess voltage in the space using some kind of an "electron gun" at an edge of the wire, thus "closing" the circuit.
 
Found a shorter explanation:

when a conductor moves through a
magnetic field, charged particles in the conductor experience an
electrodynamic force perpendicular to both the direction of mo-
tion and the magnetic field. So if a tether is moving from west to
east through Earth’s northward-pointing magnetic field, electrons
will be induced to flow down the tether [see illustration on pre-
ceding page].
The tether exchanges electrons with the ionosphere, a re-
gion of the atmosphere in which high-energy solar radiation
strips electrons from atoms, creating a jumble of electrons and
ions, called a plasma. The tether collects free electrons at one
end (the anode, or positively charged electron attractor) and
ejects them at the opposite end (the cathode, or negatively
charged electron emitter). The electrically conductive iono-
sphere serves to complete the circuit, and the result is a steady
current that can be tapped to use for onboard power. As a prac-
tical matter, in LEO a 20-kilometer tether with a suitable an-
ode design could produce up to 40 kilowatts of power, suffi-
cient to run manned research facilities.
http://www.highfrontier.org/Archive/Jt/Tethers%20Scient%20Amer%200804050.pdf

But I think on Earth surface I'd miss electrons source...
I have a moving magnetic field, a "gun" to eject electrons... but I have no ionosphere to get electrons from!
 
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You could get them from a salty solutions, or just closing the loop with more wire. Trying to answer OP's question, is the solar magnetism even strong enough at Earth? If you put a compass at a distance of 1 AU from the Sun, but somewhat far from Earth so it's magnetic field won't influence it, would the compass still align with the Sun's field?
 

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