Projectiles Problem: Expert Help for Q3 (A) - Get Solutions Now!

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The discussion focuses on solving a projectile motion problem, specifically addressing algebraic errors in the calculations related to the angle alpha. Participants highlight the importance of determining the time of impact using the horizontal component before deriving expressions solely in terms of alpha. There is a correction regarding the relationship between tangent, sine, and cosine functions, emphasizing that one cannot directly equate them without proper context. A substitution method using cos^2(alpha) is mentioned for solving the quadratic equation. The conversation underscores the need for clarity in trigonometric relationships and the correct application of algebraic techniques in projectile motion problems.
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Here is the problem (Q3 (A));
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Here's what I have so far;
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Any help would be appreciated, thank you!
 
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It appears you made an algebra error when you went from ## 21 \cos \alpha = \frac {30}{ t} ## to ## \cos \alpha = \frac {630}{ t} ##.
Also, I would first find your time of impact based on your horizontal component.
With that time of impact, you can make an expression that is in terms of alpha only.
 
RUber said:
It appears you made an algebra error when you went from ## 21 \cos \alpha = \frac {30}{ t} ## to ## \cos \alpha = \frac {630}{ t} ##.
Also, I would first find your time of impact based on your horizontal component.
With that time of impact, you can make an expression that is in terms of alpha only.

Yes I realized this after I posted, I'll try that, thanks!
 
I made a substition of x = cos^2(alpha) and manipulated it into a quadratic equation to get the two solutions.
part b comes right out of part a if you have already solved for time of impact.
 
Aaron,

Something else to note: If you have the expression ##\tan \alpha = \frac{A}{B}##, then you cannot conclude that ##\sin \alpha = A## and ##\cos \alpha = B##.
 
RUber said:
I made a substition of x = cos^2(alpha) and manipulated it into a quadratic equation to get the two solutions.
part b comes right out of part a if you have already solved for time of impact.

Could you elaborate on this a bit? Not quite sure what you mean..
 
Do you have an expression that can be written as some trig functions of alpha = 0?
Use sin = sqrt(1-cos^2) to convert everything in terms of cos.
 
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