Proof, intersection and sum of vector spaces

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The discussion revolves around proving the relationship between the orthogonal complements of vector spaces, specifically that \( V^{\bot} \cap W^{\bot} = (V + W)^{\bot} \). The scope includes theoretical aspects of linear algebra and the exploration of definitions related to vector spaces and their orthogonal complements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that proving the statement involves demonstrating that elements from both sides of the equation can be shown to belong to each other by using definitions.
  • Another participant expresses a desire for guidance on how to approach the proof, indicating it may be part of an assignment in linear algebra.
  • A different participant emphasizes the importance of working through the problem independently to appreciate the underlying implications of the proof.
  • One participant provides a logical structure involving the definitions of orthogonal complements and intersections, indicating that if a vector is in \( V^{\bot} \) and \( W^{\bot} \), it must also be in their intersection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how to approach the proof, with some advocating for independent exploration while others seek direct assistance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific steps to prove the statement.

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Participants reference definitions and properties of orthogonal complements and intersections without fully resolving the mathematical steps required for the proof.

lukaszh
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Hello,
how to prove this:
V^{\bot}\cap W^{\bot}=(V+W)^{\bot}
Thanks
 
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It is a "simple" matter of proving an element in the left-hand side is in the right-hand side and vis versa by parsing the definitions. But you'll learn little by seeing it done. You need to go through the steps of discovering the tricky details and resolving them so you appreciate the implications.
 
Could you show me, how to do it?
 
lukaszh said:
Could you show me, how to do it?

Yes but I'd rather you show me some start first. I take it this is an assignment in studying linear algebra. The point of an assignment if for you to puzzle through the problem and thereby learn.

I'll start you by pointing out that if a vector v is in the subspace U^\perp then it must be perpendicular to all elements of the subspace U.
 
I know this:
\left(v\in V^{\bot}\wedge v\in W^{\bot}\right)\Rightarrow\left(v\in V^{\bot}\cap W^{\bot}\right)
\left(x\in V\wedge x\in W\right)\Rightarrow\left(x\in V\cap W\right)
I can also write that
v^Tx=0\,;\; x\in V, v\in V^{\bot}
w^Ty=0\,;\; y\in W, w\in W^{\bot}
 

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