Proof of convergence and divergence

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The discussion revolves around the convergence or divergence of the sequence defined by the expression \(\frac{2^{n}}{n!}\). Participants are exploring various methods to analyze this sequence, including the Squeeze theorem and the ratio test, while also considering the relationship between the convergence of the sequence and the convergence of the associated series.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are questioning the applicability of the Squeeze theorem and whether it is the only method available. There is also a discussion about the distinction between the convergence of the sequence and the convergence of the series. Some participants suggest using the ratio test and exploring bounds on the factorial function to analyze the sequence.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on different approaches and clarifying their intentions regarding the sequence versus the series. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the ratio test and bounds on factorials, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the correct application of LaTeX in their posts and the implications of convergence for sequences versus series. There is also mention of specific factorial comparisons to establish bounds, indicating a focus on rigorous mathematical reasoning.

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Homework Statement


Does \frac{2^{n}}{n!} converge or diverge?

The Attempt at a Solution


Is there more than one way to prove this?
I would appreciate a few directions.
I've been trying the Squeeze theorem for a long time.
I said 1/n! was smaller, but I have no damn idea how to say what's bigger. I COULD figure out how to say \frac{n!}{n^{n}} was convergent, with the squeeze theorem, but this is really difficult.
Is the squeeze theorem the only way?
Would appreciate some good hints.

Wait, what the heck, how do I get latex to work?
Oh well I think you can all figure out what's written
The first equation is plainly (2^n)/n!
The second one is n!/(n^n)
 
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CookieSalesman said:

Homework Statement


Does \frac{2^{n}}{n!} converge or diverge?

The Attempt at a Solution


Is there more than one way to prove this?
I would appreciate a few directions.
I've been trying the Squeeze theorem for a long time.
I said 1/n! was smaller, but I have no damn idea how to say what's bigger. I COULD figure out how to say \frac{n!}{n^{n}} was convergent, with the squeeze theorem, but this is really difficult.
Is the squeeze theorem the only way?
Would appreciate some good hints.

Wait, what the heck, how do I get latex to work?
Oh well I think you can all figure out what's written
The first equation is plainly (2^n)/n!
The second one is n!/(n^n)

For ##f_n = 2^n / n!##, do you really mean you want to know if ##t_n## itself converges (exactly as you have written), or do you actually want to determine if ##\sum t_n## converges? The reason I ask is that often posters write the former when they mean the latter.
 
Oh, I would like to know if the sequence converges, not the series.
But just wondering, if the sequence does converge it won't mean the series does, right?
Could you help me see if the series converges as well?
 
One way to look at it is that, for a given n, both n! and 2^n have n factors. But n- 2 of the factors of n! are larger than 2.
 
CookieSalesman said:
Oh, I would like to know if the sequence converges, not the series.
But just wondering, if the sequence does converge it won't mean the series does, right?
Could you help me see if the series converges as well?

If you've done series, try the ratio test to see if the series converges. If the series converges then the sequence must converge to zero.
 
CookieSalesman said:
Oh, I would like to know if the sequence converges, not the series.
But just wondering, if the sequence does converge it won't mean the series does, right?
Could you help me see if the series converges as well?

You can use ##4! > 4 \cdot 3 > 3^2##, ##5! > 3^3##, ##6! > 3^4##, etc., to get a useful bound on ##2^n/n!##. Alternatively, you can use Stirling's Formula for the asymptotic behavior of ##n!##, but that seems like overkill in the present case.
 

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