Proof of existence of opposite roots in semisimple algebras?

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The discussion revolves around the proof of the existence of opposite roots in semisimple Lie algebras, particularly focusing on the implications of the Killing form and the properties of root spaces. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and theoretical exploration within the context of algebraic structures relevant to physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if α is a root, then the space gα is non-null and orthogonal to the sum of spaces gλ for λ not equal to -α, leading to the conclusion that -α must also be a root due to the non-degeneracy of the Killing form.
  • Another participant acknowledges the correctness of the proof but cautions against potential circular reasoning in the argument.
  • A different participant elaborates on the properties of the Killing form, stating that the commutation relations imply that if α + β is not null, the corresponding root spaces do not contribute to the trace, reinforcing the argument that -α must be a root.
  • One participant requests an example where the space gα (eigenvectors) is strictly included in gα, indicating a desire for clarification or further illustration of the concepts discussed.
  • A later reply asserts that for a complex semisimple g, the generalized eigenvectors g^α are always equal to g_α, suggesting a potential point of contention or clarification regarding the definitions used.

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Participants express varying levels of agreement on the correctness of the proof, but there is no consensus on the implications of the definitions or the examples requested. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific nature of the spaces involved and the potential for circular reasoning.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the properties of the Killing form and the definitions of the root spaces, which may not be fully explored or agreed upon by all participants.

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Happy new year from France.

I am reading books on elementary particle and i see that their
gauge bosons may be neutral or have opposite charge. They live
in semisimple Lie algebras. So I searched in math books how to prove
that in a semisimple Lie algebra if α is a root so is -α.
I found that it is related to the fact that the killing form is not degenerate.

Could you comment this:

If α is a root the space gα is not nul and orthogonal to Ʃλ ≠- α g λ. Since the Killing form is non degenerate g must be ≠ 0 then -α is a root.

Here g λ = {x ∈ g |∃n ∈ N ∀h ∈ h , (π(h) − λ(h))n (x) = 0}.
 
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That is certainly a correct proof, but be sure that you're not using anything you're not allowed to (i.e. that you're not being circular).
 
I found it in a book.

the main thing is to see that [gα , gβ ] ⊂ gα+β
by definition the killing form K(x,y) = trace (ad x ad y) where ad y (z) = [y,z].

We have ad x ad y (z) = [x,[y,z]]
if x ∈ g α y ∈ g β and z ∈ g γ then [x,[y,z]] is in g α+β+γ
so if α+β not null gγ is mapped on another space and does not participate to the trace (outside the diagonal)
x is orthogonal to y (K =0) if β not = -α
it cannot be orthogonal to all the vectors (K not degenerate) so -α is a root.

Could you give me an example where gα (eigenvectors) is strictly included in gα
 
For a complex semisimple g, what you denote by g^\alpha ("generalized" eigenvectors) is always equal to g_\alpha.
 

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