Proof of invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E

In summary, the conversation discusses using a four-dimensional coordinate system and the component of four-momentum on an axis to prove that dp1*dp2*dp3/E is invariant under Lorentz transformation. However, the person speaking is unsure if the same proof can be used to show that dxdydz/t is also invariant. The proof for momentum and energy also uses the constraint E^2=p^2+m^2, which is equivalent to p^2=m^2*c^2, and the conclusion drawn from the proof is found to be wrong. The conversation ends with the person questioning whether the same approach can be applied to show the invariance of dxdydz/t.
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If we introduce four-dimensional coordinate sistem with component of four-momentum on axis, then dp1*dp2*dp3 can be considered as zeroth component of an element of hypersurface given by p^2=m^2*c^2. Element of this hypersurface is parallel to 4-vector of momentum so we have that dp1*dp2*dp3/E is ration of components of two parallel vectors so it must be invariant under Lorentz transformation. (this proof is from Landau, Lifgarbagez - Fields)
This proof seems ok but I can't see why I cannot apply it to show (wrongly) that dxdydz/t is invariant.

Thanks in advance.
 
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The proof for momentum and energy uses the constraint E^2=p^2+m^2.
 
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Yes, that is equivalent to p^2=m^2*c^2 (p is 4-vector of momentum). So for x, I can watch hypersurface given by equation x^2=c*\tau (x is 4-vector, and \tau proper time). So the rest is same and conclusion is worng (namely that dxdydz/t is invariant)
 

1. What is "Proof of invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E"?

"Proof of invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E" refers to a mathematical proof that shows that the product of three momentum components (dp1, dp2, dp3) divided by the total energy (E) remains unchanged in certain physical processes.

2. Why is it important to prove invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E?

Proving invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E is important because it helps to validate certain physical laws and theories, such as conservation of energy and momentum. It also allows scientists to make accurate predictions and calculations in various fields of physics, including particle physics and quantum mechanics.

3. How is the proof of invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E carried out?

The proof of invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E is typically done using mathematical equations and principles, such as the laws of conservation of energy and momentum, as well as vector calculus. It involves carefully analyzing and manipulating equations to show that the product of the momentum components divided by the energy remains constant.

4. What are some real-world applications of invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E?

The concept of invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E has many practical applications in physics, such as in particle accelerators, where it is used to calculate the energy of particles and predict their behavior. It is also relevant in nuclear physics, where it helps to understand the interactions and decay of subatomic particles.

5. Are there any exceptions to the invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E?

There may be certain situations where the invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E does not hold, such as in the presence of external forces or non-conservative processes. However, these exceptions are carefully accounted for in the overall equations and do not invalidate the concept of invariance in general.

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