Proof of invariance of dp1*dp2*dp3/E

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The discussion focuses on the proof of invariance of the expression dp1*dp2*dp3/E within the context of four-dimensional coordinate systems and four-momentum. It establishes that dp1*dp2*dp3 represents the zeroth component of an element of a hypersurface defined by the equation p^2=m^2*c^2, which is invariant under Lorentz transformations. The participants reference the work of Landau and Lifgarbagez to support their claims. A misconception is addressed regarding the incorrect application of this proof to the expression dxdydz/t, which is not invariant.

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If we introduce four-dimensional coordinate sistem with component of four-momentum on axis, then dp1*dp2*dp3 can be considered as zeroth component of an element of hypersurface given by p^2=m^2*c^2. Element of this hypersurface is parallel to 4-vector of momentum so we have that dp1*dp2*dp3/E is ration of components of two parallel vectors so it must be invariant under Lorentz transformation. (this proof is from Landau, Lifgarbagez - Fields)
This proof seems ok but I can't see why I cannot apply it to show (wrongly) that dxdydz/t is invariant.

Thanks in advance.
 
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The proof for momentum and energy uses the constraint E^2=p^2+m^2.
 
Yes, that is equivalent to p^2=m^2*c^2 (p is 4-vector of momentum). So for x, I can watch hypersurface given by equation x^2=c*\tau (x is 4-vector, and \tau proper time). So the rest is same and conclusion is worng (namely that dxdydz/t is invariant)
 

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