Proof that hunting is for the birds

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The discussion centers around a video featuring a bird, likely an eagle, seemingly hunting a small deer or jackrabbit. Participants debate the identity of the bird, with suggestions including a golden eagle or a juvenile chicken hawk, and discuss the size of the prey, speculating it could be a small white-tailed deer or a large jackrabbit. There is confusion about the actual species and size of both the bird and the animal it catches, with some arguing that a bird of that size could potentially take down a small deer, while others assert that even a yearling deer would be too large. The conversation also touches on regional differences in wildlife, particularly in South Jersey, and includes humorous exchanges about local accents and cultural differences. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of identifying wildlife and the nuances of hunting dynamics in nature.
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Interesting proof.
 
I got lost between the Q and the ED.
 
perhaps it is not obvious that you should click on the :bugeye:
 
Integral said:
perhaps it is not obvious that you should click on the :bugeye:

Hah! I never thought of doing that before.

His bird is almost as tough as my deer-hunting cat.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Hah! I never thought of doing that before.

His bird is almost as tough as my deer-hunting cat.

pshh my hunts nwbs.
 
Integral said:
perhaps it is not obvious that you should click on the :bugeye:

Ah. Nice video.
 
Looks like a golden eagle and it's hunting a jack rabbit, not a deer.
 
Astronuc said:
Looks like a golden eagle and it's hunting a jack rabbit, not a deer.

strangest looking jackrabbit I have ever seen. I guess it could be a jackalope.
 
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OK - I stand corrected - it does look like a small white-tailed deer (based on neck and forelegs). I have seen large jack rabbits that do look like a small deer from a distance.
 
  • #11
Could be a harpy eagle, judging from the look of the crest in the final frames. Hard to tell, though.

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Nope! Just looked and a harpy has too much white. My memory from the movie was faulty.
 
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it looks like one of those miniature deer and an immature eagle ---if it was a full size deer, the deer would have higher and longer jumps, and wouldn't have been flung around so easily----




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That's quite interesting. Here in the state of South Jersey, we have a bird that goes by the name of chicken hawk, but I don't think that is its real name. I guess they live on squirrels and rabbits which are quite abundant here as well as other small mammals that I'm not aware of. Deer are abundant here too, but I don't think this bird is large enough to take down even a fawn.
 
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http://offthekuff.com/blog/misc/HenryChickenhawk.jpg

Henry Chickenhawk
 
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rewebster said:
Henry Chickenhawk
So you're saying that the bird in the film is a juvenile chicken hawk that has been bamboozled by Foghorn Leghorn into thinking that a deer is a chicken?
 
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well, the way the deer was running away, it looks chicken
 
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Integral said:
strangest looking jackrabbit I have ever seen. I guess it could be a jackalope.

It looks too big when compared to the jackalope in your livingroom.
 
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jimmysnyder said:
That's quite interesting. Here in the state of South Jersey, we have a bird that goes by the name of chicken hawk, but I don't think that is its real name. I guess they live on squirrels and rabbits which are quite abundant here as well as other small mammals that I'm not aware of. Deer are abundant here too, but I don't think this bird is large enough to take down even a fawn.

So has South Jersey finally seceded from North Jersey? :biggrin: Yeah, a rabbit is about the limit of what the chicken hawks can handle.

Cool video...never would have guessed I should click on the smiley either. :smile:
 
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Moonbear said:
So has South Jersey finally seceded from North Jersey?
Do you mean North Joisey?
 
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jimmysnyder said:
Do you mean North Joisey?

I think that's Nawth Joisey. Central Jersey is the only place in the state where people know how to speak properly. :biggrin: Afterall, you South Jersey folks think your kids color with crawns, while the rest of us know they're called crayons. :biggrin:
 
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Moonbear said:
Afterall, you South Jersey folks think your kids color with crawns, while the rest of us know they're called crayons.
First of all, we in South Jersey have no accent, everyone else does. Secondly, we don't color with crawns we write with them.
 
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I was thinking golden eagle too. It's bigger than a red-tail, and if it's not an eagle it's almost certainly some kind of buteo.

And that's a little fawn they released to its doom. In the initial frame you can see the bird on the guy's arm, so it's not so incredibly big. The deer is incredibly small!
 
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Chi Meson said:
I was thinking golden eagle too. It's bigger than a red-tail, and if it's not an eagle it's almost certainly some kind of buteo.

And that's a little fawn they released to its doom. In the initial frame you can see the bird on the guy's arm, so it's not so incredibly big. The deer is incredibly small!
It might not even be a Golden. There are eagles all over the world, and falconry is an ancient form of hunting, so this clip could have been shot anywhere. It may not even be a deer, but an antelope or some other small ungulate.
 
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Chi Meson said:
And that's a little fawn they released to its doom. In the initial frame you can see the bird on the guy's arm, so it's not so incredibly big. The deer is incredibly small!

The deer isn't that small. Whitetails don't get very big, and it looks like a whitetail. It could be a yearling, but it's not a fawn. That bird is pretty huge. If you pause the video on the first frame or two, you'll see that bird is about half the height of that guy (I don't know how he's holding such a large bird). I'm not sure if the bird really "bagged" the deer though. Definitely quite the tumble going on, but that could be because it got lucky catching the deer mid-air on a leap as it was running and knocking it off balance. That doesn't look all that different from the tumbles I took with sheep when I was first learning to catch them and only succeeded in knocking us both off-balance, but never actually caught them (they'd get up and run off while I was still brushing the muck off myself).
 
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Moonbear said:
The deer isn't that small. Whitetails don't get very big, and it looks like a whitetail. It could be a yearling, but it's not a fawn. That bird is pretty huge. If you pause the video on the first frame or two, you'll see that bird is about half the height of that guy (I don't know how he's holding such a large bird). I'm not sure if the bird really "bagged" the deer though. Definitely quite the tumble going on, but that could be because it got lucky catching the deer mid-air on a leap as it was running and knocking it off balance. That doesn't look all that different from the tumbles I took with sheep when I was first learning to catch them and only succeeded in knocking us both off-balance, but never actually caught them (they'd get up and run off while I was still brushing the muck off myself).
Ooh, Moonie! You're geographically challenged (little deer down your way). Mature whitetail does here are generally around 150#, and mature bucks run over 200# - way too big for an eagle to even consider. Even the fawns with spots on them up here are bigger than the little guy in the video. A yearling whitetail should be in the 100# range - again, way too big for an eagle to tackle. I realize that the farther south you go, the smaller (in general) the whitetails, but I can't imagine that a yearling whitetail anywhere in the US could be comparable in size to an eagle. I'd like to know where that was shot - I can't make out the language in the sound-track.
 
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ummm wtf?
how come no one thinks about the wing size. i shure its wing tip to tip is like 5ft if not more and that thing was at least 2 feet tall.

in my book that could easily take out a little deer.
**** my car does it all the time.
 
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Jackalope
http://www.jackalopelakeside.com/Images/Jackalope.jpg
 
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  • #30
Ivan Seeking said:
Jackalope
http://www.jackalopelakeside.com/Images/Jackalope.jpg
/wow! look at the rack on that rascal! How does he get into his burrow with them bones?
 
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  • #31
turbo-1 said:
/wow! look at the rack on that rascal! How does he get into his burrow with them bones?

The mature males back into their hole leaving only their heads exposed to predators...which is why they are often found decapitated.
 
  • #32
Ivan Seeking said:
The mature males back into their hole leaving only their heads exposed to predators...which is why they are often found decapitated.
So THAT'S how those little Jackalope heads end up mounted on little shield-shaped plaques all over the country. I never would have guessed.
 
  • #33
turbo-1 said:
So THAT'S how those little Jackalope heads end up mounted on little shield-shaped plaques all over the country. I never would have guessed.

Ya. My uncle has one of those. The neck looks pretty ripped up though.
 
  • #34
Math Jeans;14895T17 said:
Ya. My uncle has one of those. The neck looks pretty ripped up though.
That might be because the nocturnal predators were not too neat when they killed the little fella. It's probably tough to train coyotes, badgers, etc, to leave neatly-trimmed necks when they just want supper.
 
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turbo-1 said:
That might be because the nocturnal predators were not too neat when they killed the little fella. It's probably tough to train coyotes, badgers, etc, to leave neatly-trimmed necks when they just want supper.

The strategy is not that you teach them to make neatly-trimmed necks. You just have to teach them to use a sword.
 
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Hunters find that snipe snips work well enough.
 

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