Prove (1+x^2)(1+y^2)(1+z^2)/(xyz)>=8 with x,y,z Positive Real Numbers

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality \((1+x^2)(1+y^2)(1+z^2)/(xyz) \geq 8\) for positive real numbers \(x\), \(y\), and \(z\). Participants explore various approaches and reasoning related to this mathematical problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting with the inequality \((1-x)^2 \geq 0\) and rearranging it to \(((1+x^2)-2x)((1+y^2)-2y)((1+z^2)-2z) \geq 0\).
  • Another participant claims that using the inequalities \(1+x^2 \geq 2x\), \(1+y^2 \geq 2y\), and \(1+z^2 \geq 2z\) leads to the conclusion that \((1+x^2)(1+y^2)(1+z^2)/(xyz) \geq 8\).
  • A different approach is proposed by rewriting the expression as \(f(x,y,z) = g(x)g(y)g(z)\) with \(g(x) = x + \frac{1}{x}\), suggesting that the minimum occurs at \(x = y = z = 1\).
  • Some participants express concern about the originality of their contributions, with one acknowledging a previous post that provided a similar proof.
  • Another participant humorously notes the possibility of overlooking previous posts, suggesting a light-hearted atmosphere in the discussion.
  • One participant proposes a simpler assumption that each variable is 1 or more, indicating a belief that this would suffice for integers from 1 and above.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no clear consensus on the proof, as multiple approaches are presented, and some participants acknowledge previous contributions without fully resolving the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some arguments rely on specific inequalities and assumptions about the values of \(x\), \(y\), and \(z\), which may not be universally applicable without further justification.

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hi,
there is a challenging problem that no one could answer it,so here it is if anyone wants to try:
if x,z,y are all positive real numbers prove that:

(1+x^2)(1+y^2)(1+z^2)/(xyz)>=8

so anyone can help please? thank you.
 
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Hmm...you could try to start out with:
(1-x)^{2}(1-y)^{2}(1-z)^{2}\geq{0}
This can be rearranged as:
((1+x^{2})-2x)((1+y^{2})-2y)((1+z^{2})-2z)\geq{0}
Perhaps this might yield something
 
inferi said:
hi,
there is a challenging problem that no one could answer it,so here it is if anyone wants to try:
if x,z,y are all positive real numbers prove that:

(1+x^2)(1+y^2)(1+z^2)/(xyz)>=8

so anyone can help please? thank you.
Hello,

I am not a native english speaker, so be warned :-).
This problem is simple really.
For any real number we have
(1-x)^2>=0, so 1+x^2>=2x;
(1-y)^2>=0, so 1+y^2>=2y;
(1-z)^2>=0, so 1+z^2>=2z.

Lets plug these inequalities into the left part of inequality we want to prove:
(1+x^2)(1+y^2)(1+z^2)/xyz >= (2x * 2y * 2z)/xyz=2*2*2=8.
So, we have (1+x^2)(1+y^2)(1+z^2)/(xyz)>=8.
Proved :-)
Hope, this helps.
 
Dear, oh dear, you're right. How simple..

Here's another one:
We may rewrite the the expression as:
f(x,y,z)=g(x)*g(y)*g(z), g(x)=x+\frac{1}{x}
Thus, the minimum value will occur at:
g'(x)=g'(y)=g'(z)=0\to{x}=y=z=1
 
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Didn't the paniure give that proof already, Kummer?
 
arildno said:
Didn't the paniure give that proof already, Kummer?
Yes he did. I should be more careful lest someone accuse me of stealing answers. I deleted my post otherwise it does not look good.
 
Hmm..more likely, it was the not-bothering-reading-all-the-posts syndrome you were the victim of.

I believe you are forgiven. :smile:
 
it's simple, just assume that each one is 1 or more so it will work for all of the integers from 1 and above
 

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