Prove a complex set defined by inequalities is open

In summary, The conversation discusses proving the set D to be open, where D is defined as the set of complex numbers z such that |z^2 - 1| < 1. The attempt at a solution involves showing that for any z in D, there exists a neighborhood around it that is contained in D. The conversation delves into different approaches to this proof, including using the triangle inequality and manipulating the given inequality. The final solution involves choosing a specific r value based on the given z and using that to define the neighborhood and prove inclusion in D.
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skriabin
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Homework Statement


Prove that the set D = {z in C; |z^2 - 1| < 1} is open


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The Attempt at a Solution


I have to show that for any z in D, there exists r > 0 s.t. the nbhd N(z,r) is contained in D. Let w in N(z,r) => |z - w| < r. Need to show |w^2 - 1| < 1 for some r > 0.

I tried |w^2 - 1| = |(w^2 - z^2) + (z^2 - 1)| <= |w - z||w + z| + |z^2 - 1|,

but since we have |z^2 - 1| < 1 already, it doesn't seem to help much. Not sure what else to try. Thanks for any help!
 
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skriabin said:
I tried |w^2 - 1| = |(w^2 - z^2) + (z^2 - 1)| <= |w - z||w + z| + |z^2 - 1|,

but since we have |z^2 - 1| < 1 already, it doesn't seem to help much. Not sure what else to try. Thanks for any help!

So that looks pretty good...for a given z, let |z2-1| be equal to 1-e for some (probably small) e. |w2-1| <= |w-z||w+z| + 1 - e < 1 if e>|w-z||w+z|

When |w-z| is really small, what can you say about |w+z|, and then what can you say about comparing e and |w-z|
 
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hmm |w + z| then approaches 2|z| ? Giving then e > 2|z||w - z|? and?
 
  • #4
You know what e is. You know what z is. Your goal is to find how small |w-z| is. What can you do with the inequality?

Also note that |w+z| is not going to be exactly 2|z|, you should allow a little wiggle room (for example, say |w+z|<2.1|z| then when you pick r, pick it to be either what's required from your calculation, or what's required to make |w+z|<2.1|z|, whichever is smaller)
 
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But can't we choose r = |w - z| < e/|w + z| instead of r < e/2.1|z| ? Then we would have the inequality satisfied no?
 
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skriabin said:
But can't we choose r = |w - z| < e/|w + z| instead of r < e/2.1|z| ? Then we would have the inequality satisfied no?

You can't define r in terms of w, since w is picked based on what r is!
 
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oops meant r = e/|w + z|. sry about that.
 
  • #8
Office_Shredder said:
You can't define r in terms of w, since w is picked based on what r is!

But if we pick a w based on what r is, how can we prove any w in the nbhd is in D?
 
  • #9
Maybe I misunderstood. I will check again next morning. I'm off to bed. Thanks for the help.
 

1. What does it mean for a set to be open?

In mathematics, a set is considered open if all its points are interior points, meaning that for any point in the set, there exists a neighborhood around that point that is also contained within the set.

2. How do you prove that a set is open?

To prove that a set is open, you must show that for any point in the set, there exists a neighborhood around that point that is also contained within the set. This can be done by analyzing the given inequalities and determining the range of values for each variable that satisfies all the inequalities.

3. What is a complex set?

A complex set is a set that is defined by multiple inequalities, often involving multiple variables. These inequalities can be linear or non-linear and may involve strict or non-strict inequalities.

4. Why is it important to prove that a complex set is open?

Proving that a complex set is open is important because open sets have many useful properties in mathematics, such as being connected and having a well-defined boundary. Additionally, open sets are often used in the definition of continuity and differentiability of functions.

5. Can a complex set be both open and closed?

No, a complex set cannot be both open and closed. This is because an open set has all interior points, while a closed set has all its boundary points. A complex set may have some interior points and some boundary points, but it cannot have all of both.

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