Can Absolute Value Property be Proven for Real Numbers x and y?

In summary, the author is saying that it is impossible for x-y to be greater than x+y. However, if you try substituting different values for x and y, it is possible for x-y to be greater than x+y.
  • #1
knowLittle
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Homework Statement


Prove that for every two real numbers x and y
##|x+y| \leq |x| + |y| ##

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



There are three cases. The easiest ones is when they are both positive and negative.
The third one I have problems with.
The numbers have different sign. Say x>0 and y<0
Divide this into two subcases:
case 3.1
## x+y \geq 0#### |x| +|y| = x+(-y) = x-y##
Now, so far so good, but my book states the following.
## |x| +|y| = x+(-y) = x-y > x+y = |x+y|##
How is it possible that x-y be ever greater than x+y?

case 3.2
## x+y < 0 ##
This one is easy too.
 
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  • #2
knowLittle said:
How is it possible that x-y be ever greater than x+y?

If [itex]-y > y[/itex], so that [itex]0 > 2y[/itex], ie. [itex]y < 0[/itex].
 
  • #3
## -y > y ## would be false even if ## y<0##. They would be equal not greater than each other.

I don't see the connection to the proof. Thanks for trying.
 
  • #4
knowLittle said:
## -y > y ## would be false even if ## y<0##. They would be equal not greater than each other.

Let [itex]y = -1[/itex]. Do you agree that [itex]-y = -(-1) = 1 > -1 = y[/itex]?
 
  • #5
knowLittle said:

Homework Statement


Prove that for every two real numbers x and y
##|x+y| \leq |x| + |y| ##


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



There are three cases. The easiest ones is when they are both positive and negative.
The third one I have problems with.
The numbers have different sign. Say x>0 and y<0
Divide this into two subcases:
case 3.1
## x+y \geq 0##


## |x| +|y| = x+(-y) = x-y##
Now, so far so good, but my book states the following.
## |x| +|y| = x+(-y) = x-y > x+y = |x+y|##
How is it possible that x-y be ever greater than x+y?

case 3.2
## x+y < 0 ##
This one is easy too.

"How is it possible that x-y be ever greater than x+y?" Try x = 1 and y = -1. What is x-y? What is x+y?
 
  • #6
Thank you, I was confused.
 

What is the definition of absolute value property?

The absolute value property states that the absolute value of a number is always positive or 0, regardless of the sign of the number.

How do you prove absolute value property for a specific number?

To prove absolute value property for a specific number, you can show that the absolute value of the number is equal to the number itself if the number is positive, or the negative of the number if the number is negative. This can be done by using the definition of absolute value and algebraic manipulation.

Can absolute value property be used for complex numbers?

Yes, the absolute value property can be used for complex numbers. In this case, the absolute value of a complex number is the distance between the number and the origin on the complex plane.

What are some applications of absolute value property?

Absolute value property is commonly used in mathematics to solve equations and inequalities, as well as in calculus to define the absolute value function. It also has applications in physics, engineering, and economics.

Is absolute value property always true?

Yes, absolute value property is always true. It is a fundamental property of real numbers and can be proven using axioms and properties of real numbers.

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