Prove (n^5 - n) is divisible by 5 by induction

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The discussion revolves around proving that \( n^5 - n \) is divisible by 5 using mathematical induction. Participants explore various approaches, base cases, and related concepts, including generalizations to prime powers.

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  • One participant presents an initial proof attempt using induction, starting with \( n=5 \) and expressing \( n^5 - n \) in factored form.
  • Another participant suggests that the base case should include \( n=1, 2, 3, \) and \( 4 \) as valid cases, questioning the choice of starting with \( n=5 \).
  • A different participant proposes a generalization, speculating that a similar divisibility statement holds for any prime power, referencing properties of Pascal's triangle.
  • One participant provides a detailed explanation of why \( np - n \) is divisible by \( p \) for any prime \( p \), using the binomial theorem and properties of binomial coefficients.
  • Another participant questions the converse of the statement and suggests using a proof by contradiction to explore its validity.
  • A later reply corrects a numerical error in the initial proof attempt and suggests that the factors of \( n^5 - n \) may not be simplified enough for the proof.

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Participants express differing views on the choice of base case for induction and the generalization of the problem to prime powers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to prove the statement.

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Some participants note that the factors of \( n^5 - n \) may not be fully simplified, and there are unresolved assumptions about the generalization to prime powers.

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here's what I've done so far...

P(n) = n^5 - n
n(n-1)(n^3+n+1)
when n = 5
5 * 4* 131 = 620
620 is a factor of 5. therefore true for n=5

assume true n=k
P(k) = k^5 - k

when n = k+1

P(k+1) = (k+1)(k+1-1)((k+1)^3 + k+2)
= (k+1)(k)(k^3 + 3k^2 + 3k + 1 + k + 2)
= (k+1)(k)(k^3 + 3k^2 + 4k + 3)
= (k^2+k)(k^3 + 3k^2 + 4k + 3)
= k^5 + 4k^4 + 7k^3 + 7k^2 + 3k

what shall I do from there?

thanks xxx
 
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(n+1)^5=n^5+5n^4+10n^3+10n^2+5n+1
Therefore (n+1)^5-(n+1)=n^5-n+K, where K is divisible by 5.
 
Fizza, why do you start with n= 5 as base case? The statement is also true for n= 1, 2, 3, and 4.

Also you did not use the fact that you are assuming k5- k is a multiple of 5. Follow mathman's suggestion.
 
I'm trying to figure out how the problem was built in the first place.

I'd imagine a similar statement is true for any prime power, since the 'prime rows' of the Pascal triangle are divisible by that prime (except for the ending 1's).
 
So you are asking, "Is it true that np- n is divisible by p for p any prime?"

Yes, it is and for exactly the reason you state: if p is prime then [itex]\left(\begin{array}{c}p \\ i\end{array}\right)[/itex] for p prime and 0< i< p is divisible by p. That itself can be proven directly from the definition:
[tex]\left(\begin{array}{c}p \\ i\end{array}\right)= \frac{p!}{i!(p-i)!}[/tex]
as long as i is neither 0 nor p, 0<p-i< p and so neither i! nor (p- i)! have a factor of p. Since p! does, the binomial coefficient is divisible by p. (We need p to be prime so that other factors in i! and (p- i)! do not "combine" to cancel p.)

Now, to show that np- n is divisible by p, do exactly what mathman suggested.

First, when n= 1, 1p- 1= 0 which is divisible by p. Now assume the statement is true for some k: kp- k= mp for some integer m. Then, by the binomial theorem,
[tex](k+1)^p= \sum_{i=0}^p \left(\begin{array}{c}p \\ i\end{array}\right) k^i[/itex]<br /> subtracting k+1 from that does two things: first it cancels the i=0 term which is 1. Also we can combine the "k" with the i= p term which is k<sup>p</sup> so we have k<sup>p</sup>- k= mp. The other terms, all with 0< i< p, contain, as above, factors of p.[/tex]
 
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Hello hall of Ivy

What would be the converse of this ^^^? Could you use "the assuming the opposite" method to prove whether or not this holds?

cheers
 
Fizza said:
here's what I've done so far...

P(n) = n^5 - n
n(n-1)(n^3+n+1)
when n = 5
5 * 4* 131 = 620
620 is a factor of 5. therefore true for n=5

Not to be too picky but your example shows n = 5 yields 620. It should be 2620, but of course satisfies the condition.

Secondly and more importantly I don't think the factors of n^5 - n are simplified enough.

I would note that:
n^5 - n = n(n^4-1) = n*(n^2-1)*(n^2+1) = (n-1)*n*(n+1)*(n^2+1)

Perhaps you can exploit the fact that for any n you necessarily have the number above and below that number that must be a factor of the result?
 

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