Prove that if h is in H, then also h^-1

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How would one prove that if h is in H, then also h^-1, that is its inverse of it is also in H, if Z is only positive integers.
Where H=\{a^n: n\in Z^+\} a in G
I managed to show, as stated that e=a^{m-n}\in H
since i supposed that the group G is finite, and i also know that now i have to take two elements in H, say h and h' and then use the property that H is closed, and hh'=...=e\in H


, but i cannot figure out how to pick up h and h'?

Can u help me on this?
 
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Hi sutupidmath! :smile:

(I'm not sure I understand what G and H are, but in case I've got it right:)

Hint: if G is finite, and Hh = {hn : n ε Z+}, then how large is Hh? :wink:
 
I think i got it, let's see:

SInce g^{m-n}=e\in H it means that H consists of m-n elements, that is all powers of g up to m-n. Now this means that there defenitely are:

s_1, s_2 \in Z^{+} such that s_1+s_2 =m-n while [/tex] g^{s_1},g^{s_2} \in H[/tex] this means that:

For every element in H, say h=g^{s_2}, s_2 \in Z^+, \exists h'=g^{s_1}, s_1 \in Z^+ such that

using closure property of H, we get:


hh'=g^{s_1}g^{s_2}=g^{s_1+s_2}=g^{m-n}=e \in H which means that h and h' are inverses of each other, and still both h and h' are in H. Proof done. RIght?
 
sutupidmath said:
I think i got it, let's see:

SInce g^{m-n}=e\in H it means that H consists of m-n elements, that is all powers of g up to m-n. Now this means that there defenitely are:

s_1, s_2 \in Z^{+} such that s_1+s_2 =m-n while g^{s_1},g^{s_2} \in H this means that:

For every element in H, say h=g^{s_2}, s_2 \in Z^+, \exists h'=g^{s_1}, s_1 \in Z^+ such that

using closure property of H, we get:


hh'=g^{s_1}g^{s_2}=g^{s_1+s_2}=g^{m-n}=e \in H which means that h and h' are inverses of each other, and still both h and h' are in H. Proof done. RIght?

Hi sutupidmath! :smile:

This is very confusing …

I take it you're using g instead of a? …

and I don't understand what m is, or why you're using m - n when n is just an index. :confused:

Can't you shorten it, by starting with something like "for any s2 ε Z+, define s1 = -s2 mod m - n …" ? :smile:
 

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