Prove x13+x23+x33+x43 ≥ x1+x2+x3+x4 with x1x2x3x4=1

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The discussion centers on proving the inequality x1^3 + x2^3 + x3^3 + x4^3 ≥ x1 + x2 + x3 + x4 under the condition that x1x2x3x4 = 1, where x1, x2, x3, and x4 are positive real numbers. Participants suggest using mathematical induction, starting with the base case for two variables, and propose that showing x3 + 1/x3 - x - 1/x ≥ 0 could be a viable approach. Additionally, an analytical solution using Lagrange multipliers is discussed, leading to the conclusion that all variables must equal 1 to minimize the function. The conversation highlights the importance of careful selection of base cases in inductive proofs and the application of inequalities in mathematical analysis.
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Suppose that x1,x2,x3,x4 are four positive real numbers such that x1x2x3x4=1.

Show that x13+x23+x33+x43 ≥ x1+x2+x3+x4.

How to solve this? (Not a homework!)

Any hint is appreciated.
 
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Looks like it should be pretty easy with induction if you can prove the base case of:

if x1,x2 are positive real numbers such that x1x2=1 then x13 + x23≥ x1 + x2

For the base case you know that x1x2=1 ⇒ x2= 1/x1

i.e. show x3 + 1/x3 - x - 1/x ≥ 0, for x ≥ 0 which shouldn't be to bad with some calculus

At least that's the route I would go.
 
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Use lagrange. It will pop right out.
 
Thanks for the replies.

That's a part of a problem of a national mathematical olympiad. The full problem is as follows:

Suppose that x1,x2,x3,x4 are four positive real numbers such that x1x2x3x4=1. Show that

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JonF said:
Looks like it should be pretty easy with induction if you can prove the base case of:

if x1,x2 are positive real numbers such that x1x2=1 then x13 + x23≥ x1 + x2

For the base case you know that x1x2=1 ⇒ x2= 1/x1

i.e. show x3 + 1/x3 - x - 1/x ≥ 0, for x ≥ 0 which shouldn't be to bad with some calculus

At least that's the route I would go.
Base case could just be n=1, i.e. one x. I guess you could also argue for n=0 too.
 
Anonymous217 said:
Base case could just be n=1, i.e. one x. I guess you could also argue for n=0 too.
good point, that makes it even easier
 
Anonymous217 said:
Base case could just be n=1, i.e. one x. I guess you could also argue for n=0 too.

Well, you got to watch out for which natural number corresponds to the base case when carrying out inductive proofs.

Check this out: We will show n^3 \leq n^2 for all n > 0 by induction. If n = 1, we get 1^3 \leq 1^2 which is certainly true. Now assume k^3 \leq k^2. Then

(k + 1)^3 = k^3 + 3k^2 + 3k + 1 \leq k^2 + 3k^2 + 3k + 1 \leq k^2 + 2k + 1 = (k + 1)^2

which was the desired result. But wait, 2^3 = 8 > 4 = 2^2. Contradiction? The problem comes from "choice" of base case.
 
Analytical solution:

Let f(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4) = x_1^3+x_2^3+x_3^3+x_4^3-(x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4), and g(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4) = x_1x_2x_3x_4-1.

we will find the minimum of f under the condition g = 0.

We find the solutions to the lagrange equations

\frac{\delta f}{\delta x_i} = \lambda \frac{\delta g}{\delta x_i}

and g = 0, or

3x_i^2 -1= \lambda x_1x_2x_3 \Leftrightarrow 3x_i^3-x_i=\lambda, so 3x_i^3-x_i = 3x_j^3-x_j, or (x_i-x_j)(3(x_i^2+x_ix_j+x_j^2)-1) = 0. Pick the largest one, say x_k. It will be larger or equal than 1. And thus 3(x_k^2+x_ix_k+x_k^2)-1 \geq 2 > 0. Hence x_i = x_k for all i, so they are all equal. Hence x_i = 1 for all i.

Now this is the minimum on some compact set containing (1,1,1,1).

The set determined by x_i > 0, and x_1x_2x_3x_4 = 1, and x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4 <=5 contains (1,1,1,1) and is compact.

Furthermore, by the general QM-AM \sqrt[3]{\frac{x_1^3+x_2^3+x_3^3+x_4^3}{4}} \geq \frac{x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4}{4}

So x_1^3+x_2^3+x_3^3+x_4^3 \geq \frac{(x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4)^2}{16} (x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4)

Hence outside our set f(x_1,x_2,x_3,x_4) > 0. So (1,1,1,1) is actually the value for which f is minimized, and the value is 0. Hence x_1^3+x_2^3+x_2^3+x_4^3 \geq x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4.

(EDIT: I assumed we were working in the subset x_i > 0 originally, so just assume I said that before I did :) )
 
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Dr. Seafood said:
Well, you got to watch out for which natural number corresponds to the base case when carrying out inductive proofs.

Check this out: We will show n^3 \leq n^2 for all n > 0 by induction. If n = 1, we get 1^3 \leq 1^2 which is certainly true. Now assume k^3 \leq k^2. Then

(k + 1)^3 = k^3 + 3k^2 + 3k + 1 \leq k^2 + 3k^2 + 3k + 1 \leq k^2 + 2k + 1 = (k + 1)^2

which was the desired result. But wait, 2^3 = 8 > 4 = 2^2. Contradiction? The problem comes from "choice" of base case.

k^2 + 3k^2 + 3k + 1 \leq k^2 + 2k + 1 that does follow from the induction hypothesis and is certainly not true.
 
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That's what I said.
 
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Dr. Seafood said:
That's what I said.

No, you derived those inequalities in your post, but it's wrong. How does it have anything to do with the base case?
 
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