Proving "-1 = 1" Wrong: Ideas?

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The discussion centers on the paradox of proving that -1 equals 1, with participants analyzing the mathematical implications of squaring and taking square roots. Key points include the assertion that squaring a number loses information, leading to potential misconceptions about roots, particularly regarding negative numbers. The square root of 1 is confirmed to be 1, while the square root of -1 is identified as the imaginary unit i. Participants emphasize that while numbers can have multiple square roots, the notation used for square roots typically refers to the principal (positive) root. Ultimately, the consensus is that the original claim of -1 equating to 1 is incorrect due to these mathematical principles.
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These is this falsidical paradox that I can't seem to prove wrong.

## -1 = (-1)^1 = (-1)^\frac{1}{1}= (-1)^\frac{2}{2} = (-1)^{\frac{2}{1} \cdot \frac{1}{2}} = (-1)^{2 \cdot \frac{1}{2}} = ((-1)^2)^{\frac{1}{2}} = (-1)^{2 \cdot \frac{1}{2}} = ((-1)^2)^{\frac{1}{2}} = (1)^{\frac{1}{2}} = 1 ##

Any ideas?
 
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You have (1)1/2, and it can be +1 or -1. The mistake you do is that you sould consider ((-1)2)1/2=|-1| = 1
 
Gil said:
You have (1)1/2, and it can be +1 or -1.

No it can't. It's always 1.
 
Someone will say it eventually. i^2=-1
(i^2)^(1/2)=+-(-1)^(1/2), the text is there but it does not look right.
√(i^2)=+-√(-1)=i
 
micromass said:
No it can't. It's always 1.
The square root of 1 is ±√1 = ±1, isn't it?
 
Gil said:
The square root of 1 is ±√1 = ±1, isn't it?

1 has two square roots: -1 and 1. But ##1^{1/2} = 1##.
 
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micromass said:
1 has two square roots: -1 and 1. But ##1^{1/2} = 1##.

A number raised to the power of 1/2 is the exact same thing as a square root. So (-1)^{1/2} = \pm 1. Information is lost upon squaring. That's where I'd say the issue comes from.

Namely, the OP starts with a number x, and takes x = x^{(2)(1/2)} = (x^2)^{1/2}

but information is lost when we square, because x = a \implies x^2=a^2

but x^2 = a^2 \nRightarrow x = a
Though someone else may see farther than me regarding this problem.
 
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Gil said:
The square root of 1 is ±√1 = ±1, isn't it?
micromass is correct. ##\sqrt{1} = +1##.
 
Rectifier said:
## (-1)^{2 \cdot \frac{1}{2}} = ((-1)^2)^{\frac{1}{2}} ##

It isn't in general true that x^{ab} = (x^a)^b.
 
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axmls said:
A number raised to the power of 1/2 is the exact same thing as a square root. So (-1)^{1/2} = \pm 1.
No. The sqaure root of -1 is the imaginary unit i.
axmls said:
Information is lost upon squaring.
That's irrelvant to this question. We're taking the square root, not squaring something.
axmls said:
That's where I'd say the issue comes from.

Namely, the OP starts with a number x, and takes x = x^{(2)(1/2)} = (x^2)^{1/2}

but information is lost when we square, because x = a \implies x^2=a^2

but x^2 = a^2 \nRightarrow x = a
Though someone else may see farther than me regarding this problem.
 
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There is a misconception about square roots that shows up here quite often. An expression such as ##\sqrt{4} = 2##, not ##\pm 2##. While it's true that 4 has two square roots, one positive and one negative, the symbol ##\sqrt{4}## represents the positive square root.

More generally, for any positive real number a, the expression ##\sqrt{a}## represents the positive number b such that b2 = a.
 
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