Proving 3 Non-Coplanar Vectors with Position Vector r

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The discussion centers on proving that a position vector r can be expressed as a linear combination of three non-coplanar vectors a, b, and c. The main focus is on demonstrating the relationships r.(bxc) = λa.(bxc), r.(axb) = γa.(bxc), and r.(cxa) = μa.(bxc). One participant understands the first relationship but struggles with the others, questioning how the dot product with axb does not yield zero. Clarification is sought regarding the expression of r, confirming it should include all three vectors. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding vector properties and their implications in dot products.
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Hi there, I'm a bit stuck on this question:

" Given 3 non-coplanar vectors a, b and c convince yourself that the position vector r of any point in space may be represented by

r = λa + μb + γc

for some real numbers λ, μ and γ.

Show that

r.(bxc) = λa.(bxc) ,

r.(axb) = γa.(bxc) ,

r.(cxa) = μa.(bxc) . "


I understand how they get the first one - the cross product of b and c is perpendicular to both of them, so won't contain any b or c components. Hence when you do the dot product you'll be multiplying the b and c bits of r by zero so they disappear. However I don't get the other two...?

Please help!
 
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kidsmoker said:
r = λa + μb + γc

for some real numbers λ, μ and γ.

Show that

r.(bxc) = λa.(bxc) ,

r.(axb) = γa.(bxc) ,

r.(cxa) = μa.(bxc) . "

I understand how they get the first one - the cross product of b and c is perpendicular to both of them, so won't contain any b or c components. Hence when you do the dot product you'll be multiplying the b and c bits of r by zero so they disappear. However I don't get the other two...?

HI kidsmoker! :smile:

No, you're kidding yourself … you don't understand how they got the first one.

They got it by dot-producting both sides of r = λa + μb + γ with (bxc).

Now try dot-producting both sides of r = λa + μb + γ with (axb) instead …

what do you get? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
They got it by dot-producting both sides of r = λa + μb + γ with (bxc).

Now try dot-producting both sides of r = λa + μb + γ with (axb) instead …

I thought that's what I was doing? axb will be perpendicular to both a and b so won't contain a or b components? So when you dot it with r surely the a and b parts of r will be multiplied by zero?

Btw did you mean to put r = λa + μb + γc rather than r = λa + μb + γ or am I just confused?

Thanks.
 
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