Proving Equations through Homework

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The discussion revolves around proving certain equations, with participants expressing confusion about how to approach the problem. The original poster shares their struggle with starting the proof and mentions specific equations related to series and convergence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to substitute values into the equations but finds it unhelpful. They note the series' convergence at pi and identify it as an alternating series. Other participants provide hints regarding logarithmic properties and question the starting point of the series.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and clarifications. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored, including the nature of the series and the implications of logarithmic identities.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses uncertainty about the notation used in the hints provided, indicating a potential gap in understanding that may affect their ability to proceed. There is also a mention of homework constraints regarding the starting index of the series.

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Homework Statement


The question asked was to "Show that..." with regards to the equations stated below.


Homework Equations



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sorry for such a large image... I am not too savvy with the latex yet, so i just linked an image that i created with microsoft word.

The Attempt at a Solution



So, I know I am suppossed to show an attempt at this solution, but I am completely boggled on where to even start. One thing I did try to do for the first equation was to just substitute in values for n starting at 2. This did not really do much for me because as I continued along, the equation just came out to be ln(1-(some number smaller and smaller than 1)).

The only thing I can take out of the second equation is that the series will converge at pi, but I don't see how that is going to help me. I also tried substitute in numbers for n but again, no help there. I did find out however that the series was an alternating series, but I guess that was pretty obvious from the original statement of the problem.

Any help with getting me started with this would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Hint [tex]\sum_k \ln a_k = \ln\prod_k a_k[/tex]
 
The first series should probably start at 2, but it can not start at 1 because it it does than it is undefined.
 
benorin said:
Hint [tex]\sum_k \ln a_k = \ln\prod_k a_k[/tex]

Hi,

Thanks for the responses. Sorry for the dumb question, but what does the symbol in the right hand side of the equation after the ln mean? I don't think I have seen that one before. :confused: thanks.
 
prace said:
Hi,

Thanks for the responses. Sorry for the dumb question, but what does the symbol in the right hand side of the equation after the ln mean? I don't think I have seen that one before. :confused: thanks.


It's an infinite product.
 
cool thanks, I am going to try and figure it out! I'll be back =)
 

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