Proving IJ is an Ideal When S is Not: A Case Study

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The discussion centers on the properties of ideals in a commutative ring R, specifically examining the set S = {xy | x in I, y in J} and its relationship to the product ideal IJ = {Ʃ(xvyv) | xvin I, yvin J}. It is established that S is not necessarily an ideal, while IJ is confirmed to be an ideal. The properties of ideals, including closure under addition and multiplication by ring elements, are critical in this analysis. The confusion arises from the assumption that S and IJ are equivalent, which is clarified through the definitions and properties of ideals.

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Homework Statement


Show that if I and J are ideals of the (commutative) ring; R then
S={xy|x in I y in J} is not necessarily an ideal but the set of finite sums
IJ={Ʃ(xvyv)|xvin I yvin J}
is (and called the product ideal).

Homework Equations


An ideal satisfies the properties
For all x, x' in I, all r in R
(i) x+x' in I
(ii) rx in I


The Attempt at a Solution


This seems wrong to me since if I is generated by i and J is generated by j
xy+x'y'= ai*bj+a'i*b'j=(ab+a'b')(ij)=(ab+a'b')i*j which is in S since (ab+a'b')i is in I and j is in J...
and obviously by the same rule;
r(xy) is in S.
Therefore, it seems to me that S and IJ are equivalent sets (since the elements of S could be split up into a sum of product elements) and I don't see how S could _not_ be an ideal.

I haven't been able to find much information about product ideals; but this is a problem in my textbook - Algebra by Michael Artin (second edition) so I'm disinclined to think the lecturer phrased the question wrong...
Please help?
 
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