Proving Infinitely Many Solutions for u² = -1 in Quaternion Division Ring H

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The discussion revolves around proving that the quaternion division ring H contains infinitely many elements u such that u² = -1. Participants explore the properties of quaternions and their non-commutative nature in relation to this equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the form of elements in H and the implications of the non-commutative property of quaternions. There are attempts to simplify the expression for u² and questions about specific terms like 2bicj and their behavior under multiplication.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the components of quaternions and their products. Some participants have provided clarifications on quaternion multiplication, while others express confusion regarding specific terms and their simplifications. The discussion is active, with participants questioning assumptions and seeking further understanding.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of quaternion algebra, including the implications of non-commutativity and the definitions of commutators and anticommutators. There is a noted correction regarding the condition -b² - c² - d² = -1, which reflects the evolving understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Show that the quaternion division ring H has infinitely many u satisfying u^{2}=-1


Homework Equations


Elements of H is of the form a.1 +bi+cj+dk where a, b, c, d in \textsl{R} ( reals) and i^{2}= j^{2}= k^{2}=ijk = -1.


The Attempt at a Solution


Let u = a.1 +bi+cj+dk then u^{2}=a^{2}-b^{2}-c^{2}-d^{2}+2a(bi+cj+dk)+2bicj+2bidk+2cjdk and this = -1 provided a=0 and -b^{2}-c^{2}-d^{2}=1 and 2bicj+2bidk+2cjdk= 0 but I do not see how 2bicj+2bidk+2cjdk= 0.
 
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Two comments:

(1) You do know what the product i \cdot j is, right?

(2) -b²-c²-d²=1 can never be satisfied.
 
Thanks for the comments
(1) The product of i.j =k but this ring is not a commutative ring and so I do not have 2bicj = 2bcij=2bck.
ij=k, jk=i, ki=j, ji=-k, kj=-i, ik=-j
(2) My bad. I meant -b²-c²-d²=-1

But still, I do not see why 2bicj+2bidk+2cjdk= 0. Is there anything that I am missing here?
 
if its not a commutative ring then how do you have 2bicj?
Shouldnt that term then be :
i j (b*c) + j i (c*b)
If ij=-ji, and c*b=b*c then these cancel, right?
 
I guess the question is for your group what is [bi,cj] = ? or even {bi,cj} = ?
 
Yes! Thank you very much. I see it now. Poor me.
 
K.J.Healey said:
I guess the question is for your group what is [bi,cj] = ? or even {bi,cj} = ?

I do not know what [bi, cj] or {bi, cj} stand for.
 
Gtay said:
(1) The product of i.j =k but this ring is not a commutative ring and so I do not have 2bicj = 2bcij=2bck.
But fortunately, the real numbers are in the center of the ring -- a fact that is usually explicitly given by describing the quaternions as an algebra over the reals. However (unless I made an error), you can actually derive this fact from the identities given.

(I note that you already assumed this fact when you simplified bibi to -b²)
 
Gtay said:
I do not know what [bi, cj] or {bi, cj} stand for.

commutator and anticommutator:
[A,B] = AB-BA
{A,B} = AB+BA
 

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