Proving Integral A & Finding Antiderivative f(x)

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The discussion revolves around proving a statement related to an integral, denoted as A, and finding the antiderivative of a function f(x). The subject area includes concepts of integration, inequalities, and polynomial functions.

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  • Participants explore the correctness of the equation related to A and question whether certain expressions are smaller or larger than others. There are suggestions to find lower and upper estimates for the integrand to facilitate integration. Some participants discuss the possibility of expanding the function to find the antiderivative.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the functions involved and their integrals, but no consensus has been reached on the exact approach to take.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the completeness of the equation and the assumptions about the values involved in the inequalities. Participants are also navigating the constraints of not calculating the integral directly to prove the statement.

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how i Prove A?

and how i find the antiderivative of f(x) ?

thanks.
 

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Are you sure you wrote the complete equation? Because in A for sure 0.2*2^8 is not smaller than 2.

Well you could explicitly find the anti derivative if you expanded the bracket. This will give you a polynomial with powers of x and Sqrt[x] which can be integrated.

But in this question you are supposed to find lower and upper estimates for the integrand to approximate it by something you can easily integrate.

I guess the correct equation should be <2^8 on the right hand side.
 
well look again is not 0.2*2^8 smaller than 2

is0.2*2^8 smaller than 2^8

and this is correct .

thanks.
 
omni said:
well look again is not 0.2*2^8 smaller than 2

is0.2*2^8 smaller than 2^8

and this is correct .

thanks.

No, it definitely says 2. Perhaps you should look again?
 
:) YES truth my wrong but the correct A is this:


i sorry about my hasty . ;)
 

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Well, the tedious way you could do it is by expanding and then evaluating the integral. That's not fun, though.

What's the value of the integral of 2^8 from 0 to 1? Can you prove that this MUST be greater than the integral of \left(1+\sqrt{x}\right)^8[/tex] from 0 to 1?
 
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i will try to do something.

i got Hint that say's who more big 1 or sqrt x
and also i not must Calculate the integral to prove A truth?
 
Well, since (1+sqrt(x))^8 < 2^8 at all points between 0 and 1, it stands to reason that \int_0^1 \left(1+\sqrt{x}\right)^8 dx &lt; \int_0^1 2^8 dx = 2^8 as well. Can you see why?
 
If you would calculate the integral there would be no need for the inequalities.
For the upper bound follow Char.
For the lower bound you could think what is bigger,x or sqrt x in the area under consideration.
 
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ok i think i Understand it thanks to all of you.
 

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