Proving Lagrangian L is Not Uniquely Defined

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The discussion centers on proving that the Lagrangian L is not uniquely defined, as it can be modified by adding a total time derivative of a function, Λ. The user attempts to apply this modification in the Euler-Lagrange equations but encounters discrepancies in the results. They are advised to correctly compute the total time derivative of the modified Lagrangian and consider whether they are using the appropriate number of coordinates. Clarification is provided that the partial derivative of Λ with respect to q is treated as a function of q and t, which should be differentiated accordingly. The conversation emphasizes the importance of careful calculation in applying modifications to the Lagrangian.
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I am trying to prove that Lagrangian L is not uniquely defined, but only up to a time derivative of a function:
\frac{d\Lambda}{dt}, \Lambda(\vec{q}, t)

So

L > L+\frac{d\Lambda}{dt} = L+\frac{\partial \Lambda}{\partial q}~\dot{q}+\frac{\partial \Lambda}{\partial t}

But when I put it in the E-L eqns they definitely aren't as before.

Where have I gone wrong?

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Show us what you got when you tried to crank out the Euler-Lagrange equations.
 


Alright:

\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}}=\frac{\partial L}{\partial q}

\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial}{\partial \dot{q}}(L+\frac{\partial \Lambda}{\partial q}~\dot{q}+\frac{\partial \Lambda}{\partial t})=\frac{\partial}{\partial q}(L+\frac{\partial \Lambda}{\partial q}~\dot{q}+\frac{\partial \Lambda}{\partial t})

\frac{d}{dt}(\frac{\partial L}{\partial q}+\frac{\partial \Lambda}{\partial q})=\frac{\partial L}{\partial q}+\frac{\partial^2 \Lambda}{\partial q^2}~\dot{q}+\frac{\partial^2 \Lambda}{\partial q \partial t}
 


Now calculate what

\frac{d}{dt}\left(\frac{\partial \Lambda}{\partial q}(q,t)\right)

is equal to.

(Do you only have one coordinate, or should you have qi's?)
 


Well I can't, so I am asking for help.
 


Don't be intimidated by the notation. The partial of Λ with respect to q is just another function of q and t. You find the total time derivative of it the same way you found the total time derivative of Λ(q,t).
 


I see. Thank you a lot.
 
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