Proving Orthogonality of Product of Matrices

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To prove that the product of two orthogonal matrices is orthogonal, one must show that (AB)^{-1} equals (AB)^{T}. The definition of orthogonal matrices states that their inverse is equal to their transpose. While the determinant of an orthogonal matrix is either +1 or -1, this property alone does not guarantee that a matrix is orthogonal. It is essential to directly apply the properties of matrix multiplication and transposition to establish orthogonality. The discussion emphasizes the need for clarity in understanding these matrix characteristics and their implications.
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How do you prove that the product of two orthogonal matrices is orthogonal? I know that a matrix can be written in component form as A=a_{jk} and that for an orthogonal matrix, the inverse equals the transpose so a_{kj}=(a^{-1})_{jk} and matrix multiplication can be expressed as AB=\Sigma_ka_{jk}b_{kl}. I think that is all I need to be using, but I'm not sure where to go from there.
 
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Think of some other characteristic of orthogonal matrices.
Think about determinants in particular.
 
Hypnotoad said:
the inverse equals the transpose so a_{kj}=(a^{-1})_{jk}

As you've written it, this is incorrect. You don't take the inverse of the entries. If A=[a_{jk}] is orthogonal then A^{-1}=A^{T}=[a_{kj}].

There's no need to go into the entries though. You can directly use the definition of an orthogonal matrix. Answer this question: what do you have to do to show (AB) is orthogonal?
 
Galileo said:
Think of some other characteristic of orthogonal matrices.
Think about determinants in particular.

Well the determinant of an orthogonal matrix is +/-1, but does a determinant of +/-1 imply that the matrix is orthogonal? I know that the determinant is distributive |AB|=|A||B|, so the determinant of the product does have to be +/-1, but I don't know if that is sufficient to show that a matrix is orthogonal.
 
Hypnotoad said:
Well the determinant of an orthogonal matrix is +/-1, but does a determinant of +/-1 imply that the matrix is orthogonal?

No, it doesn't. There are matrices with determinant +/- 1 that are not orthogonal.

To show AB is orthogonal, you can show directly that (AB)^{-1}=(AB)^{T}. What is (AB)^{T}(AB)?
 
shmoe said:
No, it doesn't. There are matrices with determinant +/- 1 that are not orthogonal.
You're right. I was so totally confused :redface:
 
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