Proving the Inequality for Complex Numbers: A Challenge in n Dimensions

In summary, the conversation discusses proving an inequality involving complex numbers and using the triangle inequality and the concept of absolute value to simplify the proof. The key is using the square of the magnitude to show that the real part of a complex number must be less than the total number.
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Homework Statement


Hello

Assume that we have n complex numbers u: [itex]u_1,u_2,...,u_n[/itex], and n complex numbers v:[itex]v_1,v_2,...v_n[/itex]

I would like to prove that:
[itex]|\Sigma_{i=1}^nRe(u_i\bar{v_i})| \le |\Sigma_{i=1}^nu_i\bar{v_i}|[/itex]

I guess this can be written simpler:
[itex]|\Sigma_{i=1}^nRe(z_i)| \le |\Sigma_{i=1}^n z_i|[/itex]

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The Attempt at a Solution


If n=1. I know that this obviously must hold. But When n is bigger than 1, I am not so sure how to show that it holds. It becomes quit messy, I tried moving the absolute value inside the sum, but id didn't work.
 
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I suggest writing each ##z## (you omitted the index by the way) in terms of its real and imaginary components.
 
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Hint:

[tex]\textrm{Re}(z+w) = \textrm{Re}(z) + \textrm{Re}(w)[/tex]
 
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By the way, when working with complex numbers, you should probably use some other letter for your index instead of ##i##, which is already reserved for ##\sqrt{-1}##. Unless you are one of those strange people who use ##j## for that purpose. :smile:
 
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I got this:

[itex]|\Sigma z_j|=|\Sigma Re(z_j)+i*Im(z_j)|=|\Sigma Re(z_j)+i*\Sigma Im(z_j)|[/itex]

Now I would use the triangle inequality if I did not have the i. But I can still say that there is always so that the absolute value of the real part of a complex number must be less than the absolute value of the total number?

so I get

[itex]\ge |\Sigma Re(z_j)|[/itex]?
 
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Consider working with the square of the magnitude. ##|a + ib|^2 = ?##
 
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jbunniii said:
Consider working with the square of the magnitude. ##|a + ib|^2 = ?##

Do you mean that I should write [itex]c=|\Sigma z_j|[/itex], [itex]a=\Sigma Re(z_j)[/itex], [itex]b=\Sigma Im(z_j)[/itex]
So then I get [itex]c=|a+bi|[/itex], squaring I get [itex]c^2=|a+ib|^2=a^2+b^2[/itex], then I get:

[itex]|\Sigma z_j|^2 = (\Sigma Re(z_j))^2+(\Sigma Im(z_j))^2[/itex], and since all are positive we must have that:

[itex]|\Sigma z_j| \ge |\Sigma Re(z_j)|[/itex]
 
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bobby2k said:
Do you mean that I should write [itex]c=|\Sigma z_j|[/itex], [itex]a=\Sigma Re(z_j)[/itex], [itex]b=\Sigma Im(z_j)[/itex]
So then I get [itex]c=|a+bi|[/itex], squaring I get [itex]c^2=|a+ib|^2=a^2+b^2[/itex], then I get:

[itex]|\Sigma z_j|^2 = (\Sigma Re(z_j))^2+(\Sigma Im(z_j))^2[/itex], and since all are positive we must have that:

[itex]|\Sigma z_j| \ge |\Sigma Re(z_j)|[/itex]
Yes, the key is that ##a^2 + b^2 \geq a^2##, so taking square roots of each side, we get ##\sqrt{a^2 + b^2} \geq \sqrt{a^2}##. The LHS of this inequality is ##|a + ib|## and the RHS is ##|a|##.
 
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Thank you for your help!
 

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What are complex numbers?

Complex numbers are numbers that consist of a real part and an imaginary part, written in the form a + bi, where a and b are real numbers and i is the imaginary unit. They are used to represent quantities that involve both real and imaginary components, such as the square root of a negative number.

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