Proving ∫xn⋅(ax+b)½ using Integration by Parts | Integral from Apostol

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The discussion revolves around proving the integral ∫xn⋅(ax+b)½ using integration by parts. Participants are exploring the application of integration techniques within the context of calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss setting u and dv for integration by parts, with some expressing difficulty in obtaining specific terms in the final expression. There is also a focus on clarifying the notation used in the equation presented.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts and clarifying notation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of the integral and the need for careful notation, but no consensus on a complete solution has been reached.

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There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the interpretation of the equation's components and the omission of differentials in integrals, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Hi guys,can anyone help me prove the following using integration by parts
∫xn⋅(ax+b)½=2/a(2n+3)(xn⋅(ax+b)3/2-nb∫xn-1⋅(ax+b)½)

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Setting u=xn,dv=(ax+b)1/2dx
du=n⋅xn-1 and v = 2/3⋅(ax+b)3/2 i can never get b in the equation and the term 2n+3 in the denominator
 
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Ted13 said:

Homework Statement


Hi guys,can anyone help me prove the following using integration by parts
∫xn⋅(ax+b)½=2/a(2n+3)(xn⋅(ax+b)3/2-nb∫xn-1⋅(ax+b)½)

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The Attempt at a Solution


Setting u=xn,dv=(ax+b)1/2dx
du=n⋅xn-1 and v = 2/3⋅(ax+b)3/2 i can never get b in the equation and the term 2n+3 in the denominator
Your work in finding v is incorrect. When you calculate ##\int dv = \int (ax + b)^{1/2} dx##, there's a simple substitution that you need to use.
 
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Thank's Setting u=(ax+b) du=a⋅dx then the integral becomes ∫u1/2du=1/a⋅u3/2⋅2/3 but that's not enough for proving the whole thing
 
Please clarify what this means:
∫xn⋅(ax+b)½=2/a(2n+3)(xn⋅(ax+b)3/2-nb∫xn-1⋅(ax+b)½)
The first part just to the right of = is ambiguous -- this part: 2/a(2n+3).

Is this ##\frac 2 a (2n + 3)## or is it ##\frac{2}{a(2n + 3)}##?
 
It is 2 over a(2n+3)
 
Ted13 said:
It is 2 over a(2n+3)
Then you should write it as 2/(a(2n + 3)). As you wrote it, most people would interpret it as ##\frac 2 a (2n + 3)##.

I'll take another look at your integral and see if I can come up with something. BTW, you are omitting the dx differentials in all of your integrals. That's not so bad in this problem, but leaving them off can come back to bite you when you are doing trig substitutions.
 
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I am sorry I'll fix that and thank's for the help again
 
I've filled up three pages of paper, both sides, but haven't gotten anywhere. I think that the strategy is to do integration by parts twice, but I'm not sure. I need to do some other stuff today, but I'll take another look later on.

Maybe someone else will have an idea...
 
Any ideas?
 
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Ted13 said:
Setting u=xn,dv=(ax+b)1/2dx
du=n⋅xn-1 and v = 2/3⋅(ax+b)3/2 i can never get b in the equation and the term 2n+3 in the denominator
That is a good approach.

After partial integration, write ##v=\frac{2}{3}(ax+b) (ax+b)^{1/2}## and split the integrand in two summands. You'll get one integral that is proportional to the one on the left side (=the original problem), and one integral that looks like the one you need for your solution. Simplify the whole equation and you are done.
 
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