QIntegrate rational function: How do I solve (8-16x)/(8x^2-4x+1)dx?

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Homework Statement



Integrate (8-16x)/(8x^2-4x+1) dx
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I separate it first 8/(8x^2-4x+1)dx -16x/(8x^2-4x+1)dx
Then I have no idea what to do next.

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none ;(
 
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Based on my calculator, I need to use trig substitution. But I have no clue:(
 
Jude075 said:
Based on my calculator, I need to use trig substitution. But I have no clue:(

Put away the calculator; it may be hurting you more than helping.

Here is a little hint: write ##8 - 16x = 4 + (4 - 16x)##; this will give you two separate terms that need to be integrated. For one of the terms, use the hint provided by the previous responder; for the other term, use partial fractions.

BTW: writing things as above is just a matter of practice and experience. After you have done lots of questions like this one, it will become second nature to you---but ONLY if you put away the calculator!
 
Ray Vickson said:
Put away the calculator; it may be hurting you more than helping.

Here is a little hint: write ##8 - 16x = 4 + (4 - 16x)##; this will give you two separate terms that need to be integrated. For one of the terms, use the hint provided by the previous responder; for the other term, use partial fractions.

BTW: writing things as above is just a matter of practice and experience. After you have done lots of questions like this one, it will become second nature to you---but ONLY if you put away the calculator!

Ray Vickson said:
Put away the calculator; it may be hurting you more than helping.

Here is a little hint: write ##8 - 16x = 4 + (4 - 16x)##; this will give you two separate terms that need to be integrated. For one of the terms, use the hint provided by the previous responder; for the other term, use partial fractions.

BTW: writing things as above is just a matter of practice and experience. After you have done lots of questions like this one, it will become second nature to you---but ONLY if you put away the calculator!
Thank you! With your help, I got -ln|8x^2-4x+1| +8arctan(x-1/4)+C by using separation , completing the square and trig substitution.
Hope this is the right answer:)
 
Jude075 said:
Thank you! With your help, I got -ln|8x^2-4x+1| +8arctan(x-1/4)+C by using separation , completing the square and trig substitution.
Hope this is the right answer:)

No, I don't think the arctan part is correct. Can you show your work?