Quadratic discriminant with tricky algebra

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of solving a problem involving the quadratic discriminant, specifically the equation b^2 - 4ac >= 0. Participants note that the algebra can become complex, with one user identifying a misprint in the second equation that introduces a constant d not present in the first. After some back-and-forth, it is confirmed that the correct form of the second equation is (a+c-b)x^2 - 2(a-c)x + (a+c+b) = 0. Users express frustration over algebraic errors, but ultimately, one participant successfully resolves the first part of the problem while still struggling with the second. The conversation highlights the intricacies of algebraic manipulation in quadratic equations.
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Quadratic discriminant

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I did b^2 -4ac>=0, but the algebra becomes prohibitively difficult.
 
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sooyong94 said:

Homework Statement


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Quadratic discriminant

The Attempt at a Solution


I did b^2 -4ac>=0, but the algebra becomes prohibitively difficult.

Sometimes there are just no shortcuts, and lengthy algebra cannot be avoided. That being said, I am not sure the result sought is correct; in particular, in your second equation you have a constant ##d## appearing in it, but there is no ##d## in the first equation.
 
I got something like
ab-4ac-ad+bc+bd-cd but I can't seem to work around that.
 
In the second equation there is a misprint
The correct equation is
(a+c-b)x2-2(a-c)x+(a+c+b) = 0
The proof is not difficult. Just find the discriminant.
 
sooyong94 said:
I got something like
ab-4ac-ad+bc+bd-cd but I can't seem to work around that.

What about the issue I raised? There is a ##d## in the second equation, but no ##d## in the first one. The relation between ##a,b,c## arising from the first equation does not involve any ##d## at all.
 
Irene Kaminkowa said:
In the second equation there is a misprint
The correct equation is
(a+c-b)x2-2(a-c)x+(a+c+b) = 0
The proof is not difficult. Just find the discriminant.
Thanks - I guess there's a misprint in my book after all.
 
Strangely enough I got -b^2 -4ac, which isn't right.

Update - I found an algebraic slip in my working.
 
I have managed to work the first part - but I don't have a clue on tackle the second part.

Update - I managed to work this out.
 
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