Quadratic equation - how to understand the impact of the middle term?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the impact of the middle term in a quadratic equation, specifically in the context of the equation y = X^2 + 10X + 24. Participants explore how changes to the middle term affect the graph of the parabola, including its position and shape.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a quick way to understand the effect of the middle term (10X) on the quadratic equation, noting that while the parabola's shape is known, the impact of changing the term to 20X is unclear.
  • Another participant explains that the middle term causes a translation of the graph, specifically stating that it shifts the parabola left by 5 units and down by 1 unit, leading to a new vertex position.
  • A different participant suggests considering half of the middle term to understand its effect, indicating that it translates the polynomial left and down, with specific values for a given example.
  • Some participants assert that the middle term does not affect the shape of the parabola, only its positioning in the coordinate plane.
  • One participant introduces a factorization approach to the equation, providing x-intercepts but not addressing the original question about the middle term's role.
  • Another participant reiterates that the middle term influences where the linear equation intersects the parabola but does not alter its shape.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the middle term affects the positioning of the parabola but disagree on the extent of its influence on the shape. Some assert it has no effect on shape, while others emphasize its role in translation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of terms and the implications of translations on the graph. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the middle term's impact.

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Hi,

I am trying understand if there is a quick way to figure out the impact of the X term in a quadratic equation.

For example, by looking at the following equation, I know that it is a parabola (X^2) ; by looking at 24, I know that it is the y-intercept. However, I don't know what is the impact of the middle term (10X). I don't know what will happen to the curve if I change it to 20X. I know that the parabola will shift to the left or right but not sure exactly.


y = X^2 + 10X +24

Is there a way to figure of the effect of the middle term?

Thanks.
 
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musicgold said:
Hi,

I am trying understand if there is a quick way to figure out the impact of the X term in a quadratic equation.

For example, by looking at the following equation, I know that it is a parabola (X^2) ; by looking at 24, I know that it is the y-intercept. However, I don't know what is the impact of the middle term (10X). I don't know what will happen to the curve if I change it to 20X. I know that the parabola will shift to the left or right but not sure exactly.


y = X^2 + 10X +24

Is there a way to figure of the effect of the middle term?

Thanks.

In your equation, the 10x term causes a translation to the left by 5 units.

Your equation can be rewritten as y = x2 + 10x + 25 - 1 = (x + 5)2 - 1.

Relative to the graph of y = x2, the equation above is shifted left by 5 units and down 1 unit. Instead of the vertex being at (0, 0), the vertex is now at (-5, -1). The point (1, 1) on the graph of y = x2 has also been shifted left and down, and is now at (-4, 0).
 
I'm assuming you are looking for only the contribution the middle term brings.

Instead of considering 10x, it's easier to consider half of the middle term: that is five times 2x. Then
##x^2 + 2 a x + 24 = (x+a)^2 + 24 - a^2##.
So it takes the polynomial ##x^2 + 24## and translates it left a units and down a2 units. In your example, a=5.
 
Note therefore, which ought to be clear from the two previous posts, that the middle term has no effect on the SHAPE of the parabola, merely on its positioning in the plane.
 
I am not sure what you mean, but your question was:
y = X^2 + 10X +24
well i use factorization because it can be factorized:
so y = X^2 + 6X+4X +24
y= X(X+6) +4(X+6)
y= (X+4) (X+6)
EITHER X IS = -4 OR X IS = -6
 
Shastri Baksh said:
I am not sure what you mean, but your question was:
y = X^2 + 10X +24
well i use factorization because it can be factorized:
so y = X^2 + 6X+4X +24
y= X(X+6) +4(X+6)
y= (X+4) (X+6)
EITHER X IS = -4 OR X IS = -6

The OP wasn't asking for the x-intercepts, which you have found. He/she was asking about what role the 10x term plays in the shape of the graph of this parabola.
 
the middle term has no effect on shape of parabola,
while graphing x^2+10x+24=0
x^2=-10x-24
y=x^2 and y=-10x-24
middle term plays a role in where the linear equation cuts the parabola and not on the shape of the parabola
 

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