The discussion centers on the challenge of quantifying human sensory experiences, which are inherently subjective, while acknowledging the objective nature of the external world. It highlights psychophysical methods as a means to compare controlled sensory inputs with subjective experiences reported by individuals. Examples such as color blindness illustrate the variability in sensory perception among people. The conversation also touches on the difficulty of objectifying subjective experiences, emphasizing that attempts to measure subjective sensations, like sound or touch, can lead to contradictions. Various psychophysical measurements, such as the Least Notable Difference (LND), are mentioned as tools that can provide quantifiable data on sensory perception. However, the discussion acknowledges that while some aspects of sensory experience can be measured, more complex subjective states, such as emotions, remain challenging to quantify. Overall, the dialogue explores the intersection of biology, psychology, and philosophy in understanding human sensory experiences.