Quantum Foam: Exploring the Gravitational Effects of Virtual Particles in Space

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In summary, the conversation discusses the potential gravitational effect of virtual particles in the vacuum of space and whether they could contribute to the "missing mass" or dark energy. It is stated that virtual particles must gravitate in order to comply with the equivalence principle. The concept of a cosmological constant, which is one explanation for dark energy, is also brought up. However, it is noted that this constant has a repulsive force rather than an attractive one like gravity. The conversation also touches on the issue of infinity in regards to the energy of virtual particles and the possibility of a solution similar to Planck's law for blackbody radiation. Ultimately, it is concluded that the cosmological constant has a repulsive force that does not directly act on matter
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Do the virtual particles theorized to exist in the vacuum of space produce a gravitational effect? If so does that mean the virtual particles are a part of the 'missing mass' / dark energy picture?
 
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Wow, that's a really interestig question! Not an expert, but I'd have to say probably not. I think that the amount of activity (number density of VPP's) is dictated by the amount of energy in a given region of space. If that's correct, then the quantum foam would just be another way of expressing the energy density, the mass of which is already accounted for.

Hope somebody a bit more qualified will respond to either confirm or deny this supposition.
 
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Yes, virtual particles must gravitate. If they didn't, the equivalence principle would be violated. For example, the rest energy (=mc^2, where m is the "inertial" mass) of hydrogen in the 2p state differs from the 2s state by the Lamb shift, which includes the effects of virtual particles such as an e+ e- pair; if these didn't gravitate, the gravitational masses would not change in the same ratio as the inertial masses.

Now, what about the vacuum? If you naively add up all the energy of all the virtual particles in any finite volume, the answer is infinity. Ooops! So we have to subtract a constant energy density from the hamiltonian to cancel off this infinity. What's left over, if anything, is the "cosmological constant", which is one possibility for the "dark energy".
 
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I thought the cosmological constant was a repulsive force, not an attractive one; the opposite of gravity?
 
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Avodyne said:
Now, what about the vacuum? If you naively add up all the energy of all the virtual particles in any finite volume, the answer is infinity. Ooops! So we have to subtract a constant energy density from the hamiltonian to cancel off this infinity. What's left over, if anything, is the "cosmological constant", which is one possibility for the "dark energy".
Isn't this similar to the blackbody radiation infinity problem which was solved by Planck by his discovery of the quantization of electromagnetic radiation? Would a similar solution to the infinity problem be applicable in this case?
 
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Art said:
Isn't this similar to the blackbody radiation infinity problem which was solved by Planck by his discovery of the quantization of electromagnetic radiation?

No. Though it may sound similar, it's not the same. Planck's law solves the ultraviolet catastrophe for thermal radiation by quantizing the e/m field. The problem these cosmologists have is not with the thermal part, but with the zero-mode part... their fields are already quantized, it's just that they are not happy with "throwing away" the zero-mode part since it sources gravity.

Would a similar solution to the infinity problem be applicable in this case?

unfortunately, no.
 
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I thought the cosmological constant was a repulsive force, not an attractive one; the opposite of gravity?

A positive cosmological constant has positive energy but negative pressure; it's the negative pressure that results in the repulsion.
 
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Avodyne said:
A positive cosmological constant has positive energy but negative pressure; it's the negative pressure that results in the repulsion.
What does this repulsive force repulse? If it acts on matter then would it not be akin to gravity in one aspect in that large expanses of space would push clumps of matter it envelops such as matter in a galaxy closer together whilst also acting as a kind of anti-gravity in pushing separate galaxies further apart?
 
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Well, it causes the universe to expand, but doesn't act directly on matter. It doesn't push anything closer together.

There's probably a decent lay explanation out there somewhere, but I'm afraid I don't know where to find it ...
 

What is quantum foam?

Quantum foam is a theoretical concept in quantum physics that describes the constant fluctuation of space-time at a very small scale. It is thought to be made up of virtual particles constantly popping in and out of existence.

How does quantum foam affect gravity?

Quantum foam has a fluctuating and chaotic structure, which can create tiny variations in the gravitational field. This effect is known as quantum gravity and is thought to play a role in the behavior of black holes and the early universe.

Can quantum foam be observed?

Currently, there is no experimental evidence for the existence of quantum foam. It is a highly theoretical concept and its effects are too small to be detected by current technology.

What is the significance of studying quantum foam?

Studying quantum foam can help us better understand the fundamental nature of space and time. It can also provide insights into the behavior of extreme environments, such as black holes, and potentially lead to the development of a theory of quantum gravity.

How is quantum foam related to virtual particles?

Virtual particles are particles that pop in and out of existence in the quantum vacuum, and are thought to be the building blocks of quantum foam. The constant creation and annihilation of these particles contribute to the chaotic nature of quantum foam.

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