Quantum Numbers and Total number of Orbitals

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The discussion centers on determining the number of orbitals corresponding to the quantum numbers n = 4, l = 3, and m_l = -2. It clarifies that while the formula 2*l + 1 typically calculates the number of orbitals in a subshell, the specification of m_l limits the options. Since m_l can only take one value at a time, in this case, -2, it indicates there is only one orbital that meets the criteria. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding how quantum numbers define electron configurations. Ultimately, the conclusion is that there is just one orbital for the given quantum numbers.
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Homework Statement



How many orbitals have the values n = 4, l = 3, and m_l = -2?

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First of all, is this question asking me how many orbitals there are with the given quantum numbers? Second, how do I go about finding that out

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I thought that I could figure out the number of orbitals by using 2*l +1 but the answer I get is wrong? Help please :)
 
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I think your answer would be correct if only n and l were given. The reason that 2*l + 1 does not apply is because the magnetic quantum number (m_l) is specified. The magnetic quantum number has to do with energy level within a subshell, and if I remember correctly, each orbital is associated with a single m_l.

So what does that tell you about the number of orbitals that meet the criteria above?
 
Hi! Thanks for your reply...I'm not quite sure at what you're trying to get at here...sorry :S I wish I did.
 
The four quantum numbers are used to describe an electron.

1st QN tells you what shell it is in. n = 1,2,3,...
2nd QN tells you what subshell it is in. l = 0,1,2,...
3rd QN specifies an orbital. m_l can be anywhere from -l to positive l, including 0. This is the reasoning behind the 2l + 1 equation. That equation tells you how many possible m_l values there are for a specific subshell, and thus how many orbitals are in a subshell.
4th QN tells you the spin of the electron. m_s = +1/2 or -1/2

In your problem, they told you what the m_l value was. The possible m_l values for the given subshell were -3,-2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, but they narrowed it down and told you that it was -2.

How many orbital choices does that leave you with?
 
Just one! That makes perfect sense! Thanks so much!
 
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