Quantum Question (dirac notation)

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The discussion revolves around understanding quantum mechanics concepts using Dirac notation, specifically focusing on calculating probabilities and mean values of energy. Participants clarify that the probability of finding a particle in a specific state is determined by squaring the coefficients of those states. The mean value of energy can be derived from the expression <psi|H|psi>, and participants discuss how to compute it using probabilities. Additionally, the conversation touches on the stability of a system in a specific state after measurement, emphasizing that it will remain in that state unless perturbed. Overall, the thread highlights foundational quantum mechanics principles and problem-solving strategies.
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Hmm ok so stuck on all parts really..starting with (a), i see that we are looking for the probability that it is in state Eroot6 i.e. |root6>

but how do we work this out? It's not a state of well defined energy so we can't just premultiply by the bra <root6| can we?

Sorry if I am being slow, we've only just started QM :(
 

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According to the statistical interpretation of quantum mechanics, what is the meaning of each of the coefficients in front of each term in equation 2.1?
 
If you were to measure what state particle was in, you'd find it in one of those states, not a mixture. The probability of finding it in one of the states is given by the coefficient of the state squared.

Root 6 is about 2.5. So the question is asking you what the probability is of finding the particle in a state less than 2.5. What is the probability of finding the particle in either the n=1 or n=2 state?
 
oh i see okay thanks. So is it 0.2^2 + 0.3^2? i.e. P(finding it in state 1) + P(finding it in state 2)?
 
JesseC said:
If you were to measure what state particle was in, you'd find it in one of those states, not a mixture. The probability of finding it in one of the states is given by the coefficient of the state squared.

Root 6 is about 2.5. So the question is asking you what the probability is of finding the particle in a state less than 2.5. What is the probability of finding the particle in either the n=1 or n=2 state?

sorry just thought id quote you so you could respond to my q above

thanks
 
bon said:
oh i see okay thanks. So is it 0.2^2 + 0.3^2? i.e. P(finding it in state 1) + P(finding it in state 2)?

To the best of my physics knowledge that is correct :D So long as we're independent of time.

You can confirm that the probability of finding the particle in at least one of those states is 1... if you square and then add all the coefficients you will get 1.
 
Thanks okay! I'm now trying to do (b),(c),(d)

(b) : To work out mean value of energy i know i just work out the sum of En P(En) over all energies right? But how do i derive this from just the knowledge that the mean value of energy is <psi|H|psi> ?

(c): So i know i just multiply every state by e^-iEn/h t Do (a) and (b) stay the same?

(d): The system is in state |4> and it will stay in this state? Is this right??
 
hellooo?
 
Sorry, I don't have time at the moment to look over the rest of the questions. Have you tried a textbook for help?

I am preparing for exams and a lab report :( hopefully someone else can help you.
 
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okkkk no worries..anyone else??
 
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bon said:
Thanks okay! I'm now trying to do (b),(c),(d)

(b) : To work out mean value of energy i know i just work out the sum of En P(En) over all energies right? But how do i derive this from just the knowledge that the mean value of energy is <psi|H|psi> ?
What is H|ψ> equal to?
(c): So i know i just multiply every state by e^-iEn/h t Do (a) and (b) stay the same?
Can you think of a reason that they should not stay the same?
(d): The system is in state |4> and it will stay in this state? Is this right??
What is the wavefunction of the system after the measurement? If you understand part (a) and given that wavefunction, what is the probability that the system will be found in states |1>, |2> and |3>?
 
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kuruman said:
Can you think of a reason that they should not stay the same?


No i guess they are the same then?

kuruman said:
What is the wavefunction of the system after the measurement? If you understand part (a) and given that wavefunction, what is the probability that the system will be found in states |1>, |2> and |3>?


Well after the measurement the state of the system is surely |4>. Won't it stay there?
 
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bon said:
No i guess they are the same then?
You guess right.
Well after the measurement the state of the system is surely |4>. Won't it stay there?
It will unless you perturb it. Note that you can write this state as 0*|1>+0*|2>+0*|3>+1*|4>.
 

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