Quasars as indicators of distance?

  • Thread starter Thread starter DJ-Smiles
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Quasars
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of quasars and their redshift to determine the distance of galaxies. Participants are exploring the relationship between redshift and distance calculations in an astronomical context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the redshift of a quasar to calculate distance using Hubble's law. Some participants question the validity of this approach, particularly regarding the influence of the quasar's own velocity on the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the assumptions involved in using redshift for distance estimation. There is acknowledgment of the complexities introduced by the velocities of quasars, and some guidance has been offered regarding alternative methods for distance estimation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that calculations may be complicated by the fact that many quasars exhibit recessional velocities greater than the speed of light, raising questions about the implications for distance measurements.

DJ-Smiles
Messages
46
Reaction score
0
I have been doing some thinking about quasars and have been wondering. Are we able to sue the redshift of a quasar to find out the distance of a galaxy?

If we know the redshift at a galaxy can't we just use Vrecession= (c*(λ-λo))/(λo), then substitute this value into Vrecession=Hubble's constant *Distance and rearrange to find the distance?

Am I correct in this assumption or am I way off, any feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

DJ
 
Physics news on Phys.org
DJ-Smiles said:
I have been doing some thinking about quasars and have been wondering. Are we able to sue the redshift of a quasar to find out the distance of a galaxy?

If we know the redshift at a galaxy can't we just use Vrecession= (c*(λ-λo))/(λo), then substitute this value into Vrecession=Hubble's constant *Distance and rearrange to find the distance?
It's a long time since I studied anything astronomic, so I can't say much here. What you say would produce a number, but won't distance calculations based on red shift be flummoxed by the quasar's own velocity?

From wikipedia we read:[/color]
It should be noted that quasars that have a recessional velocity greater than the speed of light (c) are very common. Any quasar with z>1 is going away from us in excess of c. Early attempts to explain superlumic quasars resulted in convoluted explanations with a limit of z=2.326, or in the extreme z<2.4. z=1 means a redshift indicating travel away from us at the speed of light. The majority of quasars lie between z=2 and z=5 .
 
Hmm yeah that is a good point.
 
DJ-Smiles said:
Are we able to sue the redshift of a quasar to find out the distance of a galaxy?

I think it would be difficult to find a lawyer who would take the case.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 60 ·
3
Replies
60
Views
5K
  • · Replies 24 ·
Replies
24
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 33 ·
2
Replies
33
Views
4K