A Question about Holonomy of metric connecton

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I am trying to follow Nakahara's book about Holonomy.
if parallel transporting a vector around a loop induces a linear map (an element of holonomy group)
{P_c}:{T_p}M \to {T_p}M

the holonomy group should be a subgroup of
GL(m,R)

then the book said for a metric connection, the property
{g_p}({P_c}(X),{P_c}(Y)) = {g_p}(X,Y)
makes the holonomy group a subgroup of O(m) if the manifold is Riemannian; and a subgroup of O(m-1) if the manifold is Lorentzian.

The author must think this is very straightforward and didn't explain why. Can anybody help?
 
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I assume the book you're referring to is Nakahara's Geometry, Topology and Physics, 2e.
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then the book said for a metric connection, the property
{g_p}({P_c}(X),{P_c}(Y)) = {g_p}(X,Y)
This isn't what the book says. Nakahara actually writes {g_p}({P_c}(X),{P_c}(X)) = {g_p}(X,X)

In any case, a linear transformation which preserves the inner product is the definition of an orthogonal transformation.

Also, Nakahara doesn't say that the holonomy group is a subgroup of O(m-1) in the Lorentzian case, he says it's a subgroup of SO(m-1,1).
 
If the connection is compatible with the metric, then parallel translation preserves the metric..

If the vector fields ##Y## and ##Z## are parallel along a curve with tangent vector ##X## then

##X⋅<Y,Z> = <∇_{X}Y,Z> + <Y,∇_{X}Z>## so the inner product of ##Y## with ##Z## is constant along the curve.

If the metric is Riemannian, that is: it is positive definite on each tangent space, then parallel translation is an orthogonal linear map. If the metric is not positive definite then parallel translation is an element of ##O(m-p,p)##. In the case of a Lorentz metric ##p=1##.

- If the manifold is not orientable then then a holonomy transformation may be orientation reversing.
 
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The Bill said:
I assume the book you're referring to is Nakahara's Geometry, Topology and Physics, 2e.

This isn't what the book says. Nakahara actually writes {g_p}({P_c}(X),{P_c}(X)) = {g_p}(X,X)

In any case, a linear transformation which preserves the inner product is the definition of an orthogonal transformation.

Also, Nakahara doesn't say that the holonomy group is a subgroup of O(m-1) in the Lorentzian case, he says it's a subgroup of SO(m-1,1).
Thanks for replying, this is very helpful, and I will try to keep the book close next when I am typing.
 
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lavinia said:
If the connection is compatible with the metric, then parallel translation preserves the metric..

If the vector fields ##Y## and ##Z## are parallel along a curve with tangent vector ##X## then

##X⋅<Y,Z> = <∇_{X}Y,Z> + <Y,∇_{X}Z>## so the inner product of ##Y## with ##Z## is constant along the curve.

If the metric is Riemannian, that is: it is positive definite on each tangent space, then parallel translation is an orthogonal linear map. If the metric is not positive definite then parallel translation is an element of ##O(m-p,p)##. In the case of a Lorentz metric ##p=1##.

- If the manifold is not orientable then then a holonomy transformation may be orientation reversing.
Now I seem to be able to understand the inner product preserving property make a orthogonal group, but can you explain where does the dimension (m-1) come from for Lorenzian case? Thanks
 
The m-1 comes from the fact that the inner product in the Lorentzian case is usually written with signature (m-1,1). That is, (-1,1,1,1) or (1,-1,-1,-1,-1) for 4d spacetime, for example. In the general case, this is the indefinite orthogonal group, and Nakahara is only considering the connected component which contains the identity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indefinite_orthogonal_group
 
The Bill said:
The m-1 comes from the fact that the inner product in the Lorentzian case is usually written with signature (m-1,1). That is, (-1,1,1,1) or (1,-1,-1,-1,-1) for 4d spacetime, for example. In the general case, this is the indefinite orthogonal group, and Nakahara is only considering the connected component which contains the identity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indefinite_orthogonal_group
Thanks very much, now I see the point.
 

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