Question about logic and recurrence relation

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The discussion revolves around finding a logical expression equivalent to (p ∨ q) using only ∧ and ¬ operators, as well as exploring a recurrence relation for mathematical expressions formed by specific symbols. Participants express confusion about the logical equivalence and the nature of the recurrence relation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants question the meaning of logical equivalence and whether there is a systematic approach to finding the equivalent expression. There is also a discussion about defining valid expressions and the nature of the recurrence relation.

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Some participants have offered guidance on understanding logical equivalence and suggested looking into tautologies. However, there remains uncertainty about the next steps to take in both the logical expression and the recurrence relation problems.

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Participants express a lack of clarity regarding the definitions and requirements for both the logical expression and the recurrence relation, indicating potential gaps in understanding the foundational concepts.

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Homework Statement


find a logical expression using only ∧ and ¬ operators which is logically equivalent to (p ∨ q)

The Attempt at a Solution


losing direction
what should I first consider?

There is another question about recurrent relation.

Suppose that a mathematical expression can only be formed by the following symbols: 0, 1,
2, …, 9, ×, +, /. Some examples are “0 + 9”; “2 + 2 × 8”; “1 / 5 + 6”. Let an be the the number
of such mathematical expression of length n (e.g. “0 + 9” is considered of length 3). Find a
recurrence relation for an and compute the closed form for an.
[Some clarification: We define a number as follows
- 0, 1, 2, …, 9 is a number
- If x is a number, then x0, x1, …, x9 is a number
We define a valid expression as follows
- E is a valid expression if E is a number
- If E, F are valid expressions, then E + F, E × F, E / F are also valid expressions.
For example: 1+50/4 is an expression of length 6, and 09×00/5 is an expression of length 7.]

Totally no idea about this question.
 
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johnsmiths said:

Homework Statement


find a logical expression using only ∧ and ¬ operators which is logically equivalent to (p ∨ q)

The Attempt at a Solution


losing direction
what should I first consider?

You should consider what it means to be logically equivalent, then look up "tautologies."
 
fss said:
You should consider what it means to be logically equivalent, then look up "tautologies."

What do you mean is finding something \rightarrow ( p\veeq ) and make it a tautology?
 
johnsmiths said:
What do you mean is finding something \rightarrow ( p\veeq )?

I do not understand what the above question is asking.

Do you understand what it means when two statements are logically equivalent?
 
fss said:
I do not understand what the above question is asking.

Do you understand what it means when two statements are logically equivalent?

It means p\leftrightarrowq is a tautology.

Maybe I make some mistakes with my question. And after I know that, what should I do next?
Just guessing or there is a systematic way to work out the solution.
 
johnsmiths said:
Just guessing or there is a systematic way to work out the solution.

It's not guessing, but it's not really "systematic" because it's a very simple question. All you need to do is use what you know about tautologies to construct an equivalent statement. The original statement p v q has a very simple logical equivalent that you should be able to deduce with only a little thinking once you find the proper tautological statement.
 

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