Question about the wave function of a travelling wave

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The discussion centers on the wave function of a traveling wave, specifically u(x,t)=Acos[ω(t-x/v)+φ0], and a confusion regarding the displacement of a particle at the moment the wave arrives at a point. The participant questions why the displacement should be zero when the wave arrives, yet the wave function suggests a non-zero value. It is clarified that the wave function assumes an initial condition at t=0, x=0, which can be adjusted by changing φ0 to achieve a desired starting point. Additionally, it is noted that a wave oscillating in the y direction while traveling in the x direction is classified as a transverse wave, not a longitudinal one. The conversation emphasizes the importance of initial conditions in wave functions and their implications on particle displacement.
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Hi guys,
Greetings!
I have a confusion about the wave function of a traveling wave. This is the wave function of a traveling wave traveling towards the positive direction of x axis

u(x,t)=Acos[ω(t-x/v)+φ0], where v is the velocity of the wave, ω is the angular velocity, φ0 is the initial phase.
Consider u as the displacement of a particle in y direction perpendicular to the x direction, that is, a longitudinal wave.
in the textbook, the above wave function is derived by first considering a particle oscillating at x=0 with an oscillation function u(0,t)=Acos(ωt+φ0). then when the oscilaltion spreads towards the positive x direction, it takes the oscillation x/v to arrive at x. then the oscillation at x is x/v left behind that of x=0, so we have ω(t-x/v)+φ0 the phase of the oscillation at x with respect to x=0.

my question is, for the oscillation of x at t=x/v (just at the time the wave arrived at x), according to the wave function, the displacement should be u(x,x/v)=Acos[φ0]. but since the wave has just been arrived, the starting point for the particle shold be its equilibrium point, with u(x,x/v)=0 in this case. So is there a contradiction? I have some thoughts about this, and i will post it in the next floor. I don't know whether it is right. would anyone please give me some instruction? Thanks a lot for your kind help!
 
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i think that maybe because the wave function u(x,t)=Acos[ω(t-x/v)+φ0] is the function of a wave that is steady in the space. so the derivation in the textbook gets the right wave function, but it is wrong to think like that.
 
The wave function you gave, u(x,t)=Acos[ω(t-x/v)+φ0], assumes that at t = 0, x = 0, the oscillation is Acos[φ0]. This is an initial condition, and it is in your hand. If you want the wave to start from 0, you just put φo = π/2.

Incidentally, A wave that oscillates along the y direction while traveling in the x direction is a transverse wave, not a longitudinal one.

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/question-about-the-wave-function-of-a-travelling-wave.850689/
 
Chandra Prayaga said:
The wave function you gave, u(x,t)=Acos[ω(t-x/v)+φ0], assumes that at t = 0, x = 0, the oscillation is Acos[φ0]. This is an initial condition, and it is in your hand. If you want the wave to start from 0, you just put φo = π/2.

Incidentally, A wave that oscillates along the y direction while traveling in the x direction is a transverse wave, not a longitudinal one.

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/question-about-the-wave-function-of-a-travelling-wave.850689/
Thanks Prayaga, it really helps!
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks
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