Question from trigonometry -- prove that the largest angle is greater than 120°

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The problem involves a triangle with sides measuring 3, 4, and √38 meters, and the goal is to prove that the largest angle is greater than 120 degrees. The discussion centers around trigonometric relationships and the application of the law of cosines.

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  • Participants discuss various approaches, including the use of sine and cosine laws to analyze the angles. Some question the validity of certain steps in the reasoning, particularly regarding the relationships between angles and their sine values.

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In a triangle whose sides are 3,4 and root 38 metres respectively, prove that the largest angle is greater than 120°
  • My answer: Here angle C > B...(1) and C > A ...(2) adding (1) and (2) we get 2c > A+B, taking sine both side , sin2C = sin(A+B) = sin(C), therefore cosc > (1/2) therefore angle C> 60°
  • I am not getting C> 120°, what is the problem please help
 
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(180-60)=120 is also a solution, now you should think how to prove that particular solution
 
Why not use the law of cosines? Find the angle between the short sides.

## 38 = 3^2 + 4^2 - 2(3)(4)cos(θ) ##

Now solve for θ.
 
mfig said:
Why not use the law of cosines? Find the angle between the short sides.

## 38 = 3^2 + 4^2 - 2(3)(4)cos(θ) ##

Now solve for θ.
There's a typo in the equation above. The 38 should also be squared.
 
SteamKing said:
There's a typo in the equation above. The 38 should also be squared.
No. It's ##\ \sqrt{38}\ ## which is being squared.
 
SammyS said:
No. It's ##\ \sqrt{38}\ ## which is being squared.
Missed the root in the OP.
 
prashant singh said:
taking sine both side , sin2C = sin(A+B) = sin(C),
I guess you meant sin 2C > sin(A+B), but that does not follow. Once the angle exceeds 90 degrees the sine function is decreasing. Indeed, sin(2C) would be < sin(A+B) here.
prashant singh said:
cosc > (1/2) therefore angle C> 60°
That's backwards. If sin(2C) were > sin(A+B), it would follow that C is less than 60.

@mfig's method is fine, but you do not need to solve for theta. Just show that the longest side is too long for a 120 angle.
 
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