Question in complex general equation (2nd order)

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The discussion revolves around finding the real-valued general solution of a second-order differential equation, specifically y'' + y' + y = 0. Participants are examining the characteristic equation and the resulting expressions for the solution.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the differential equation using the characteristic equation and the quadratic formula, leading to a general solution involving exponential and trigonometric functions. Some participants question the notation and clarity of the expressions used, suggesting alternative ways to represent the terms.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's approach. There is acknowledgment of potential notation issues, but no consensus on a definitive solution has been reached.

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Participants are exploring the implications of notation in mathematical expressions, particularly in relation to the representation of constants and terms in the solution.

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Question:
Find the real-valued general solution of the differential equation

y''+1y'+1y=0
where primes indicate differentiation with respect to x. (Use the parameters a, b, etc., for undetermined constants in your solution.)

My attempt:
Use characteristic equation:
r^2+r+1=0
I used the quadratic formula and got r=(-1 +-sqrt(-3))/2
So we get a=-.5 b-sqrt(3)/2

Following e^(ax)(c1cos(bx)+c2sin(bx):

we get e^(-.5x)(a*cos(\sqrt{3}*x/2)+bsin(\sqrt{3}*x/2))

Anyone see any flaw i nlogic of algebra or math? I can't seem to get a correct answer
 
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hi batmankiller! :smile:

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batmankiller said:
Find the real-valued general solution of the differential equation

y''+1y'+1y=0
where primes indicate differentiation with respect to x. (Use the parameters a, b, etc., for undetermined constants in your solution.)

we get e^(-.5x)(a*cos(\sqrt{3}*x/2)+bsin(\sqrt{3}*x/2))

looks ok to me :confused:

perhaps it's your notation …

have you tried entering x/2 (instead of 0.5 x), or (√3/2)x, or 0.866 x ?
 
umm yeah thanks so much. -.5x apparently doesn't equal -x/2 anymore. Math as we know it has changed!
 
the computers have taken over :redface:

we have to speak the language of the conquerors! :smile:
 

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