Questions about Explosions and Center of Mass in a Homework Problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics homework problem involving two masses connected by a rod on a frictionless surface, where an explosion occurs, adding kinetic energy to the system. Key questions include determining the velocity of mass B after the explosion, the velocity of the combined mass A+A' immediately afterward, and the relationship between initial and additional kinetic energies. Participants clarify that the total kinetic energy equations must be correctly interpreted, emphasizing that the center of mass velocity remains constant post-explosion. The conversation highlights confusion regarding the movement directions of the masses and the implications for momentum conservation.
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Homework Statement


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2 masses connected with a solid rod .distace between them is 2L ,
total mass is M .

B total mass is m ,length L can freely move between A and A'
on flat and frictionless surface. all collisions are elastic.

at the beginning B was stuck to A and all the system was moving to the right ,v_0 and kinetic energy T_0 .
at some moment ,explosion take place and the system get additional kinetic energy T .

1.what is the velocity of B ,v_B as function of v_0,T,m,M ?
2.what is the velocity of A+A' ,immediately after the explosion ?
3.what is the relation between T_0 and T ,if A don't move to the left ?
4.after the explosion B start to move between A and A',what is the time between the
collision of B with A , and the collision between B and A' ?

Homework Equations


The total kinetic energy (in the lab frame) is :
K = K_{cm} +\frac{1}{2} \sum_{n=0}^N m_i (v'_i)^2

The Attempt at a Solution


before the explosion:
T = \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v_{cm}^2 + 0 +0 ,given v_0 = v_{cm}\hat x we get T = \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v_0^2 + 0 +0

after :
T+ T_0 = \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v'^2_{cm} + \frac{1}{2}Mv'^2_A +\frac{1}{2}mv'^{2}_B
or
<br /> \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v_0^2+ T_0 = \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v&#039;^2_{cm} + \frac{1}{2}Mv&#039;^2_A +\frac{1}{2}mv&#039;^{2}_B

v&#039;_{cm} = is the velocity of center of mass after the explosion ..so it move the same velocity
as before ,which mean - v&#039;_{cm} = v_0 .

so we get :
(1) 0 = Mv&#039;_A +mv&#039;_B - momentum
(2) T_0 = \frac{1}{2}Mv&#039;^2_A +\frac{1}{2}mv&#039;^{2}_B
i get that if
m - \frac{m^2}{M} &gt; 0 then v&#039;_B = \pm\sqrt{\frac{2T_0}{m - \frac{m^2}{M} }}\hat x&#039;
and v_B = v_0 \hat x+ ( \pm\sqrt{\frac{2T_0}{m - \frac{m^2}{M} }}) \hat xQ:
1. is this the solution ?
2.if 1 is o.k then v_b ...easy
3 - what it means "move to the left " ? ...at c.m reference system ,it`s look to me that 2 masses can't move
to the same direction ,do they ? if so , (1) - wrong solution .
any way don't have a clue ..
4.??
 
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momo1111 said:

Homework Statement


2jectae.jpg
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2 masses connected with a solid rod .distace between them is 2L ,
total mass is M .

B total mass is m ,length L can freely move between A and A&#039;
on flat and frictionless surface. all collisions are elastic.

at the beginning B was stuck to A and all the system was moving to the right ,v_0 and kinetic energy T_0 .
at some moment ,explosion take place and the system get additional kinetic energy T .

1.what is the velocity of B ,v_B as function of v_0,T,m,M ?
2.what is the velocity of A+A&#039; ,immediately after the explosion ?
3.what is the relation between T_0 and T ,if A don't move to the left ?
4.after the explosion B start to move between A and A&#039;,what is the time between the
collision of B with A , and the collision between B and A&#039; ?

Homework Equations


The total kinetic energy (in the lab frame) is :
K = K_{cm} +\frac{1}{2} \sum_{n=0}^N m_i (v&#039;_i)^2

The Attempt at a Solution


before the explosion:
T = \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v_{cm}^2 + 0 +0 ,given v_0 = v_{cm}\hat x we get T = \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v_0^2 + 0 +0
What you have given as T above is actually T0.
after :
T+ T_0 = \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v&#039;^2_{cm} + \frac{1}{2}Mv&#039;^2_A +\frac{1}{2}mv&#039;^{2}_B
or
<br /> \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v_0^2+ T_0 = \frac{1}{2}(M+m)v&#039;^2_{cm} + \frac{1}{2}Mv&#039;^2_A +\frac{1}{2}mv&#039;^{2}_B
What you have as T0 on the left side of the above equation is actually T. The ##\displaystyle \ \frac{1}{2}(M+m){v_0}^2 \ ## is T0.
v&#039;_{cm} = is the velocity of center of mass after the explosion ..so it move the same velocity
as before ,which mean - v&#039;_{cm} = v_0 .

so we get :
(1) 0 = Mv&#039;_A +mv&#039;_B - momentum
(2) T_0 = \frac{1}{2}Mv&#039;^2_A +\frac{1}{2}mv&#039;^{2}_B
i get that if
m - \frac{m^2}{M} &gt; 0 then v&#039;_B = \pm\sqrt{\frac{2T_0}{m - \frac{m^2}{M} }}\hat x&#039;
and v_B = v_0 \hat x+ ( \pm\sqrt{\frac{2T_0}{m - \frac{m^2}{M} }}) \hat x

Q:
1. is this the solution ?
2.if 1 is o.k then v_b ...easy
3 - what it means "move to the left " ? ...at c.m reference system ,it`s look to me that 2 masses can't move
to the same direction ,do they ? if so , (1) - wrong solution .
any way don't have a clue ..
4.??
See what making those correction will do.
 
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