Graduate Questions about magnetic monopoles

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Magnetic monopoles are not found in the electro-weak sector of the standard model, leading researchers to search for them in Grand Unified Theories (GUT) and Supersymmetry (SUSY), where they are predicted to be heavy. Despite their predicted mass, experiments at the LHC continue to seek monopoles, as GUTs suggest they may exist at energies lower than the Planck scale. Cosmological theories primarily focus on monopoles from GUTs, although monopoles could theoretically arise from SU(3) interactions, which do not carry electromagnetic charge. The discussion emphasizes the importance of experimental exploration beyond theoretical predictions, as historical discoveries like the muon demonstrate the value of pursuing unexpected findings. Ultimately, the search for monopoles remains a significant area of inquiry in particle physics and cosmology.
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So far as I know there are no monopoles in the electro-weak sector of standard model. So people look for it in the GUT and SUSY sectors. However, they are predicted to be heavy(order of Planck mass). There have been studies from LHC attempting to detect monopoles. So here are my questions:

1. If monopoles are too heavy to be detected at LHC, then why look for them? Are there theories why predict them to be lighter than GUTs? Or am I missing anything?
2. Why all cosmology theories only talk about monopoles of GUTs? One can construct monopoles from SU(3) of strong interaction and/or flavor as well, can't they?
 
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Should experimenters only look for things predicted by theory? We would never have discovered the muon that way.
 
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I think I figured out the answers to my question:

phoenix95 said:
2. Why all cosmology theories only talk about monopoles of GUTs? One can construct monopoles from SU(3) of strong interaction and/or flavor as well, can't they?
SU(3) of the color, doesn't intrinsically carry an electromagnetic charge. Or to put it more appropriately: The electromagnetic charge is constructed from flavor generators of SU(3) and not color. But the flavor symmetry is explicitly broken. Hence there are no monopoles in SU(3) (flavor or color).

phoenix95 said:
1. If monopoles are too heavy to be detected at LHC, then why look for them? Are there theories why predict them to be lighter than GUTs? Or am I missing anything?
Well, if they do then it corresponds to a gauge group that has a weaker coupling compared to GUTs. It can also be viewed like this: GUTs simply present a falsifiable argument saying "Monopoles cannot be detected at present scales available", and the experiments are simply testing that.

I hope someone can correct me if I am wrong in any of the above.

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Should experimenters only look for things predicted by theory? We would never have discovered the muon that way.
I absolutely agree. Experimenters should be the impudent brats as they are since otherwise theorists can only be writing fantasies.
 
GUT theories predict that monopoles are created at high energies (but not as high as Planck energy) at an early cosmological era. If so, they should be still visible in the present Universe (unless inflation diluted them).
 
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I thought I would start a thread, as as spinoff to perhaps highlight and contemplate of that the ideas in the paper mitchell porter pointed to means. I just started to sniff it.. and wrote in the other thread "How to fix Relativistic QM so it's consistent?" Indeed fixing relativity and how to understnad equivalences, seems to be the central issue of the below paper. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Huge paper, I havent ready it through fully but skimmed...

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