Questions about subsets and members of the set {{b},{c},d,{∅}}

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The discussion centers on the set G = {{b},{c},d,{∅}} and the properties of its subsets and elements. Participants clarify that the empty set ∅ is indeed a subset of every set, including G, despite some confusion about its status as an element. It is established that c is not an element of G, which impacts the validity of certain subset claims. The power set notation φ(G) is confirmed to represent the power set, leading to further discussions on the relationships between elements and subsets. Overall, the conversation emphasizes understanding set theory definitions, particularly regarding subsets and the empty set.
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For the set G where G = {{b},{c},d,{∅}}, I believe these are correct:

1) {{c}} \subseteq G
2) {b} \subseteq G
3) {d} \subseteq G
4) d \subseteq G
5) ∅ \subseteq G
6) c \notin \varphi(G)
7) {c} \in \varphi(G)
8) {b} \subseteq \varphi(G)
9) {{d}} \notin \varphi(G)
10) ∅ \in \varphi(G)
11) {∅} \in \varphi(G)
12) ∅ \subseteq \varphi(G)
13) {∅} \subseteq \varphi(G)
14) {{∅}} \subseteq \varphi(G)

If any are incorrect an explanation would be appreciated.
 
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Cabinbreaker said:
For the set G where G = {{b},{c},d,{∅}}, I believe these are correct:

1) {{c}} \subseteq G
2) {b} \subseteq G
3) {d} \subseteq G
4) d \subseteq G
5) ∅ \subseteq G
6) c \notin \varphi(G)
7) {c} \in \varphi(G)
8) {b} \subseteq \varphi(G)
9) {{d}} \notin \varphi(G)
10) ∅ \in \varphi(G)
11) {∅} \in \varphi(G)
12) ∅ \subseteq \varphi(G)
13) {∅} \subseteq \varphi(G)
14) {{∅}} \subseteq \varphi(G)

If any are incorrect an explanation would be appreciated.
Two of the first 5 are wrong. If {x} is an element of G but x is not then {{x}} is a subset of G but {x} is not.

Is φ(G) supposed to be the power set? Not familiar with that notation. I am used to Ƥ (G) and 2G. Assuming it is, X \subseteq G is the same as X \in \varphi(G), and it would also follow that {X} \subseteq \varphi(G). I think 4 of the last 9 are wrong.
 
Yes, φ is the power set.

I have changed these to reflect what I believe is accurate but still have trouble with number 5.

G = {{b},{c},d,{∅}}

1) {{c}} ⊆ G
2) {b} ⊈ G
3) {d} ⊆ G
4) d ⊈ G
5) ∅ ⊆ G – would the empty set be a subset of G? I know {∅} is an element G, but ∅ is still a set.
6) c \in Ƥ(G)
7) {c} ∈ Ƥ(G)
8) {b} ⊈ Ƥ(G)
9) {{d}} ∉ Ƥ(G)
10) ∅ \notin Ƥ(G)
11) {∅} ∈ Ƥ(G)
12) ∅ ⊆ Ƥ(G)
13) {∅} ⊈ Ƥ(G)
14) {{∅}} ⊆ Ƥ(G)
 
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Cabinbreaker said:
Yes, φ is the power set.

I have changed these to reflect what I believe is accurate but still have trouble with number 5.

G = {{b},{c},d,{∅}}

5) ∅ ⊆ G – would the empty set be a subset of G? I know {∅} is an element G, but ∅ is still a set.
1 to 4 are right now. The empty set is a subset of every set.
6) c ∈ Ƥ(G)
c is not even a set, as far as we know!
7) {c} ∈ Ƥ(G)
No, c is not an element of G, so {c} is not a subset of G, and so is not an element of the power set of G.
10) ∅ ∉ Ƥ(G)
Same qn as (5)
13) {∅} ⊈ Ƥ(G)
Reconsider in view of (5), (10)
14) {{∅}} ⊆ Ƥ(G)
No. This would have been true if the empty set had been an element of G.
∅ ⊆ X => ∅ ∈ Ƥ(X) => {∅} ⊆ Ƥ(X) (and these are true for any X)
Adding a level of {}:
∅ ∈ X <=> {∅} ⊆ X <=> {∅} ∈ Ƥ(X) <=> {{∅}} ⊆ Ƥ(X) (but ∅ ∉ G)
Adding another level of {}:
{∅} ∈ X <=> {{∅}} ⊆ X <=> {{∅}} ∈ Ƥ(X) <=> {{{∅}}} ⊆ Ƥ(X) (and these are true for G)
 
Cabinbreaker said:
5) ∅ ⊆ G – would the empty set be a subset of G? I know {∅} is an element G, but ∅ is still a set.

As haruspex mentioned, ∅ is a subset of every set. To see why this is this, recall the definition of "subset." If A and B are sets, we say that A is a subset of B if

x \in A implies x \in B

Now this is an example of one of those "empty set arguments" that take some getting used to, but that you'll see over and over as you learn set theory.

I claim that if G is any set, x \in ∅ implies x \in G. Since there is no x \in ∅, it's vacuously true that x \in ∅ implies x \in G.

In other words, you can't show me an x that's an element of the empty set that's not also an element of G. That's because you can't show me any element of the empty set at all!

Therefore, formally, we do have the truth of the statement "x \in ∅ implies x \in G"

So by definition, ∅ is a subset of G, where G is any set at all.

It's worth working through this argument till it makes sense to you; because vacuous arguments involving the empty set come up all the time.

Also it's a good example of how referring directly back to the actual definition is often the best way to approach these problems.
 
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Thank you for the help! I found this most helpful in clearing up most of my misunderstandings!

haruspex said:
No. This would have been true if the empty set had been an element of G.
∅ ⊆ X => ∅ ∈ Ƥ(X) => {∅} ⊆ Ƥ(X) (and these are true for any X)
Adding a level of {}:
∅ ∈ X <=> {∅} ⊆ X <=> {∅} ∈ Ƥ(X) <=> {{∅}} ⊆ Ƥ(X) (but ∅ ∉ G)
Adding another level of {}:
{∅} ∈ X <=> {{∅}} ⊆ X <=> {{∅}} ∈ Ƥ(X) <=> {{{∅}}} ⊆ Ƥ(X) (and these are true for G)
 
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