Race of Light Rays in Vacuum and Water: Winner or Tie?

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In a race between light rays, one traveling in vacuum and the other in water, the ray in vacuum will always arrive first due to its higher speed, approximately 299,792 km/s compared to about 75% of that speed in water. Despite potential phase shifts affecting the perceived timing of light, the geometric path remains a crucial factor in determining which ray reaches the detector first. Discussions highlight that phase lag and time delay are interconnected, and significant phase shifts can occur over long distances. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding these concepts rather than relying solely on quick searches for answers. Overall, the light in vacuum wins the race, with the ray in water experiencing a delay.
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Imagine two light rays parallel to each other , one of them is traveling in vacuum and the other one in water. We place a detector at the same distance from the source and fire the two rays inside their respective media.who will win the race? Or is it possible to have a tie in the competition?
 
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Can you Google "speed of light in vacuum" and "speed of light in water" ?
 
phinds said:
Can you Google "speed of light in vacuum" and "speed of light in water" ?

Oh sorry I am a really dumb kid who can make a new thread but can't Google something.
I did do it but wasn't satisfied by the results, some places they said that the light ray travels with the absolute velocity but with a phase shift and so I wanted to know if that could result in actual delay in traversing a geometric path.
 
Light speed in water is about 75% of vacuum light speed.
 
quawa99 said:
Oh sorry I am a really dumb kid who can make a new thread but can't Google something.
I did do it but wasn't satisfied by the results, some places they said that the light ray travels with the absolute velocity but with a phase shift and so I wanted to know if that could result in actual delay in traversing a geometric path.
Since we get a lot of that here, it is helpful to provide that information upfront. We can't provide the appropriate help if we don't know where you are.
 
quawa99 said:
Oh sorry I am a really dumb kid who can make a new thread but can't Google something.
I did do it but wasn't satisfied by the results, some places they said that the light ray travels with the absolute velocity but with a phase shift and so I wanted to know if that could result in actual delay in traversing a geometric path.

Phase lag, at a given frequency, and time delay are effectively the same thing. In the case of light frequencies, there could be a pretty massive phase shift over a long path. It is quite possible to detect two 'racing' pulses when they arrive at different times, even over a few metres of 'race track. 3 X10^8 m/s is a very 'finite' quantity.

Lenses all work on the principle that the phase / time shift through the thick parts of the glass is greater than the air+glass path through the thin parts.

I could suggest that you try to hone your searching skills. What you read may not immediately strike you as useful but is worth while making the effort to make sense of it - or use another link. It is all too easy to ask questions and all too easy for them to be mis-interpreted. PF is much more useful for sorting out individual points than as an education system. Books are incredibly good as a source of total learning.
 
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