Real Analysis - Radius of Convergence

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of a power series at its radius of convergence R and its negative counterpart -R, specifically focusing on the conditions under which the series converges given that the coefficients are non-negative.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the implications of convergence at R and question the validity of using the alternating series test and comparison test. They discuss the conditions required for convergence and the nature of the series when evaluated at -R.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. Some have suggested using the comparison test while others have pointed out its limitations. There is an ongoing exploration of the properties of alternating series and the conditions under which they converge.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement that the coefficients are non-negative and the implications of convergence at the endpoints of the radius of convergence. There is uncertainty regarding the ordering of the coefficients and its impact on convergence.

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Homework Statement


Suppose that [tex]\sum[/tex]anxn has finite radius of convergence R and that an >= 0 for all n. Show that if the series converges at R, then it also converges at -R.

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Since the series converges at R, then I know that [tex]\sum[/tex]anRn = M.

At -R, the series is the following: [tex]\sum[/tex]an(-R)n = [tex]\sum[/tex](-1)nanRn.

I'm not sure where to go from here. I thought I needed to use the alternating series test, but how can I know that a1 >= a2 >= ... >= an for all n? Do I know this because the series converges? Thanks for your help.
 
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Right. You can't use the alternating series test. How about a comparison test?
 
Thanks! So since [tex]\sum[/tex]anRn converges, and an(-R)n <= anRn for all n, then [tex]\sum[/tex]an(-R)n converges.
 
Sorry! That's wrong. I'm clearly asleep at the wheel. That's convergence for sequences. And this sort of argument only shows that the partial sums are bounded, not that they converge. Do you know the Dirichlet convergence test?
 
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Dick said:
Sorry! That's wrong. I'm clearly asleep at the wheel. That's convergence for sequences. And this sort of argument only shows that the partial sums are bounded, not that they converge. Do you know the Dirichlet convergence test?

I don't know that one. But the comparison test in my book says the following:

Let [tex]\sum[/tex]an be a series where an >=0 for all n.
(i) If [tex]\sum[/tex]an converges and |bn| <= an for all n, then [tex]\sum[/tex]bn converges.

If I let an = anRn, this is >=0 for all n. And if I let bn = an(-R)n, then I have |bn| <= an for all n, so the series converges, right? What's wrong with this statement?
 
Nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately, I wasn't thinking of that comparison test. Hence the panic attack. Carry on.
 
Ok! :smile: Thanks once again for your help.
 
What's wrong with using the comparison test is that it only applies to positive series. Certainly -n< (1/2)n for all n, but we can't use that to conclude that [itex]\sum -n[/itex] converges!

The crucial point is that every an is positive. That means that [itex]\sum a_n x^n[/itex], for x negative is an alternating series. What is true of alternating series?
 
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The crucial point is that every an is positive. That means that [itex]\sum a_n x^n[/itex], for x negative is an alternating series. What is true of alternating series?

If a1 >= a2 >= ... >= an >= ... >= 0 and lim(an) = 0, then the alternating series [tex]\sum[/tex](-1)nan converges. But, like I said before, do I know that a1 >= a2 >= ... >= an because the series converges at R?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
What's wrong with using the comparison test is that it only applies to positive series. Certainly -n< (1/2)n for all n, but we can't use that to conclude that [itex]\sum -n[/itex] converges!

The crucial point is that every an is positive. That means that [itex]\sum a_n x^n[/itex], for x negative is an alternating series. What is true of alternating series?

All of terms a_n*R^n are positive and it's convergent. The series is absolutely convergent. Nothing can go wrong here.
 

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