Reduce Power Source Sensitivity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing an electronic circuit to detect fluctuations in the geomagnetic field due to solar activity, with a focus on addressing issues related to power source sensitivity and stability in the face of thermal fluctuations in the environment.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a bridge circuit to maintain consistent power input by controlling resistor component ratios, but seeks opinions on this method or alternatives.
  • Another participant inquires about the specifics of the power source, including input/output voltages and current variations, and recommends using a linear voltage regulator for ultra-stable output voltage.
  • A different participant mentions two strategies: improving power supply stability or making the design more resistant to power supply variations, indicating the need for more information about the detector and instrumentation amplifiers to assess power supply rejection ratio (PSRR).
  • One participant expresses a lack of detailed information about the power supply but provides a rough estimate of the input voltage range from -12V to 12V and shares a schematic of the circuit.
  • Another participant questions the reason for the input being opto-isolated despite sharing the same ground as the measuring circuit.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of understanding how well the design rejects power supply variations and requests clarification on the transducers and the first amplification stage in the circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on methods to address power source sensitivity, with no consensus reached on the most effective approach. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best strategies for improving power supply stability and design resilience.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include incomplete information about the power supply characteristics and the circuit design, as well as unresolved questions regarding the transducer and amplification stages.

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I am currently designing an electronic circuit to detect fluctuations of the geomagnetic field in response to solar activity.

One problem I am anticipating however is an over sensitive power source which will respond to thermal fluctuations in the holding room (can’t control room temperature) etc.

A method I have considered to correct this is to use a bridge circuit and by controlling the resistor component ratios simply, consequently maintain a consistent power input.

Any opinion on this potential method or a more effective one would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Calum92 said:
I am currently designing an electronic circuit to detect fluctuations of the geomagnetic field in response to solar activity.

One problem I am anticipating however is an over sensitive power source which will respond to thermal fluctuations in the holding room (can’t control room temperature) etc.

A method I have considered to correct this is to use a bridge circuit and by controlling the resistor component ratios simply, consequently maintain a consistent power input.

Any opinion on this potential method or a more effective one would be greatly appreciated.

Welcome to the PF.

Can you say more about your power source? What are the input and output voltages, and what is the range of the output current? What is the variation in the output current versus frequency? Is it a very steady output current?

To get an ultra-stable output voltage, you would typically use a linear voltage regulator with good output bypass capacitors. If needed, you could put the regulator in a temperature-controlled enclosure as well.
 
Calum92 said:
I am currently designing an electronic circuit to detect fluctuations of the geomagnetic field in response to solar activity.

One problem I am anticipating however is an over sensitive power source which will respond to thermal fluctuations in the holding room (can’t control room temperature) etc.

Hi Calum. In situations like this you generally have two options. One is to try to improve the power supply stability, the other is to try to make your design more resistant to power supply variations.

We need to know a little bit more about your detector and associated instrumentation amplifiers before we can assess what options you have for increasing the PSRR (power supply rejection ratio) if this turns out to be a problem.
 
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Hello, thank you for your valued feedback. Unfortunately I don't have much information noted down concerning the power supply but I do believe the power input ranges from -12V to 12V if memory serves correct.

I have attached a shematic description of the current circuit plan (excuse the messiness) if that is of any help. My apologies I won't be back in the lab till next Tuesday when I will hopefully be able to update both of you with more details of the power supply.
 
Calum92 said:
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Hello, thank you for your valued feedback. Unfortunately I don't have much information noted down concerning the power supply but I do believe the power input ranges from -12V to 12V if memory serves correct.

I have attached a shematic description of the current circuit plan (excuse the messiness) if that is of any help. My apologies I won't be back in the lab till next Tuesday when I will hopefully be able to update both of you with more details of the power supply.

Why is the input opto-isolated? (Even though the input light source shares the same ground as the measuring circuit...)
 
Calum92 said:
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My apologies I won't be back in the lab till next Tuesday when I will hopefully be able to update both of you with more details of the power supply.
Don't worry too much about the power supply a this stage. What we want to see is how well your design rejects power supply variations. Unfortunately I can't discern which is the transducer and first amplification stage (of transducer output) from the circuit diagram shown.

Can you please explain exactly what transducers you are using and what first stage the transducer signals are feeding in to.
 

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