Related Rates: Particle's Distance from Origin

In summary, we are given a particle moving along an ellipse with coordinates x = 4cost and y = 2sint. We are asked to find the rate at which the particle's distance from the origin is changing at time t and when t = pi/4. The expression to represent the distance from the origin is dx/dt + dy/dt. The equation for the ellipse does not play a role in finding this rate. The answer for the rate of change at t = pi/4 is -1/2.
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Homework Statement


A particle is moving along the ellipse x2/16 + y2/4 = 1. At each time t its x and y coordinates are given by x = 4cost, y = 2sint. At what rate is the particle's distance from the origin changing at time t? At what rate is the distance from the origin changing when t = pi/4?


Homework Equations


x2/16 + y2/4 = 1
x = 4cost
y = 2sint
dx/dt
dy/dt

The Attempt at a Solution


I am fairly sure i can do this question, the only problem is that i am not so sure what it is asking for. I'm assuming that i am to find dy/dx.
dy/dx = (dy/dt)(dt/dx)
dy/dt = 2cost
dx/dt = -4sint

x2/16 + y2/4 = 1
2x(dx/dt) (1/16) + 2y(dy/dt)(1/4) = 0
(x/8) (-4sint) + (y/2)(2cost) = 0
(-xsint)/2 + ycost = 0
At t = pi/4
2ycos(pi/4) = xsin(pi/4)
2y(1/√2) = x(1/√2)
x = 2y

dy/dx = (dy/dt) (dt/dx)
= (2cost)(-1/4sint)
= (-1/2) (cost/sint)
= (-1/2)(cott)
at t = pi/4
dy/dx = (-1/2)(1/1)
= -1/2

Does this mean that the answer is -1/2 because then I'm not sure why they gave us the equation for the ellipse because it doesn't play any effect in finding dy/dx. Thank you.
 
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tmlrlz said:

Homework Statement


A particle is moving along the ellipse x2/16 + y2/4 = 1. At each time t its x and y coordinates are given by x = 4cost, y = 2sint. At what rate is the particle's distance from the origin changing at time t? At what rate is the distance from the origin changing when t = pi/4?


Homework Equations


x2/16 + y2/4 = 1
x = 4cost
y = 2sint
dx/dt
dy/dt

The Attempt at a Solution


I am fairly sure i can do this question, the only problem is that i am not so sure what it is asking for. I'm assuming that i am to find dy/dx.
No, they're not asking for dy/dx. You wrote what the problem is asking for in your problem statement:
At what rate is the particle's distance from the origin changing at time t? At what rate is the distance from the origin changing when t = pi/4?

What expression represents the particle's distance from the origin?
tmlrlz said:
dy/dx = (dy/dt)(dt/dx)
dy/dt = 2cost
dx/dt = -4sint

x2/16 + y2/4 = 1
2x(dx/dt) (1/16) + 2y(dy/dt)(1/4) = 0
(x/8) (-4sint) + (y/2)(2cost) = 0
(-xsint)/2 + ycost = 0
At t = pi/4
2ycos(pi/4) = xsin(pi/4)
2y(1/√2) = x(1/√2)
x = 2y

dy/dx = (dy/dt) (dt/dx)
= (2cost)(-1/4sint)
= (-1/2) (cost/sint)
= (-1/2)(cott)
at t = pi/4
dy/dx = (-1/2)(1/1)
= -1/2

Does this mean that the answer is -1/2 because then I'm not sure why they gave us the equation for the ellipse because it doesn't play any effect in finding dy/dx. Thank you.
 
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Mark44 said:
No, they're not asking for dy/dx. You wrote what the problem is asking for in your problem statement:


What expression represents the particle's distance from the origin?

the rate of change of x with respect to t plus the rate of change of y with respect to t:
dx/dt + dy/dt ?
 

1. What is a related rates ellipse question?

A related rates ellipse question is a type of mathematical problem that involves finding the rate of change of one variable with respect to another in an ellipse-shaped figure. This is usually done by using the equation of the ellipse and taking the derivative of both sides to solve for the desired rate of change.

2. How do you set up a related rates ellipse question?

To set up a related rates ellipse question, you first need to identify the variables involved and their rates of change. Then, you can use the equation of the ellipse (x^2/a^2 + y^2/b^2 = 1) and take the derivative of both sides with respect to time. This will allow you to create an equation with the rates of change that you can solve for the desired rate.

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