Relating the entropy of an ideal gas with partial derivatives

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The discussion focuses on relating the entropy of an ideal gas to partial derivatives using thermodynamic identities. Key equations include the relationship derived from Euler's homogeneous theorem, specifically ##S( \partial E/ \partial S ) + V ( \partial E/ \partial V) + N (\partial E/ \partial N ) = a * E## and the Gibbs-Duhem equation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of rewriting terms using the product rule for differentiation, specifically ##x\mathrm{d}y = \mathrm{d}(xy) - y\mathrm{d}x##, to facilitate understanding of these relationships.

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Homework Statement
For an ideal gas, use ##dE=TdS-PdV+\mu dN## to prove
1. ##V(\frac{\partial P}{\partial T})_{\mu} = S##
2. ##V(\frac{\partial P}{\partial \mu})_T = N##
Relevant Equations
##dE=TdS-PdV+\mu dN##
It looks very easy at first glance. However, the variable S is a variable in the given expression. I have no clue to relate the partial derivatives to entropy and the number of particles.
 
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Using the extensible properties of the system as variables, we know that ##E (x \lambda) = \lambda E(X)## (Homogeneous function of degree a=1), so that we can say

##x * \nabla f = a f## (Euler's homogeneous theorem), where ##x = (x_{1},x_{2},...,x_{n})## is the vector with the variables.

So that
$$S( \partial E/ \partial S ) + V ( \partial E/ \partial V)+ N (\partial E/ \partial N )= a * E$$
$$ ST - PV + N \mu = E$$

The rest i think you can go on, eventually you will get the Gibbs Duhem equation
 
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Just to add to what @LCSphysicist wrote, first try to re-write each term on the RHS according to ##x\mathrm{d}y = \mathrm{d}(xy) - y\mathrm{d}x##.
 
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Thanks! This makes me recall the fact that ##G=\mu N## and ##G=U-TS+\mu N##
 
Mayan Fung said:
Thanks! This makes me recall the fact that ##G=\mu N## and ##G=U-TS+\mu N##
Careful, it's ##G := U -TS + pV = \mu N##
 

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