Relative motion in two dimensions question

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Ship A is positioned 4 km north and 2.5 km east of Ship B, with velocities of 22 km/h south and 40 km/h at 37 degrees north of east, respectively. The relative velocity of A to B can be expressed in unit-vector notation, and the position of A relative to B as a function of time is derived using integration. To find the time of least separation, the separation distance must be expressed as a function of time, which involves calculating the distance squared. The discussion emphasizes the importance of simplifying expressions and utilizing calculus to solve for minimum distances. Overall, the problem requires a clear understanding of relative motion and vector analysis.
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Ship A is located at 4 km north and 2.5 km east of ship B. Ship A has a velocity of 22 km/h toward the south, and ship B has a velocity of 40 km/h in a direction 37 degrees north of east. (a) What is the velocity of A relative to B in unit-vector notation with i toward the east? (b) Write an expression (in terms of i and j) for the position of A relative to B as a function of t, where t=0 when the ships are in the positions described above. (c) At what time is the separation between the ships least? (d) What is that least separation?

Homework Equations


i,j are unit vectors.
vPA=VPB+VBA


The Attempt at a Solution


Angles are in degrees
(a)
dr/dtA= -22km/h j
dr/dtB= 40cos(37)i+40sin(37)j
dr/dtBA= -40cos(37)i-22km/h j-40sin(37)j
(b)
\intdrBA=\int-40cos(37)i-(22km/h+40sin(37))j dt
rBA=(2.5-40cos(37)t)i+(4-t(22+40sin37))j
(c)
Now I don't know how to solve it lol
(d)

I'm really lost on how you can solve the minimum distance or the time when it reaches the minimum distance.
Please give me at least a hint
 
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f25274 said:
(a)
dr/dtA= -22km/h j
dr/dtB= 40cos(37)i+40sin(37)j
dr/dtBA= -40cos(37)i-22km/h j-40sin(37)j
OK, but why not just symbolize the velocities as VA and VB?
(b)
\intdrBA=\int-40cos(37)i-(22km/h+40sin(37))j dt
rBA=(2.5-40cos(37)t)i+(4-t(22+40sin37))j
The velocities are constant, so get rid of the integral sign. (Do the integration, if you must.)
(c)
Now I don't know how to solve it lol
First get a simpler expression for part b. Then how would you write the separation as a function of time? Then you can finally use some calculus.
 
I don't think I understand what you mean by separating as a function of time
rBA=(2.5-40cos(37)t)i+(4-t(22+40sin37))j
rBA=(2.5-31.945t)i+(4-46.073t)j

:( Is this what you mean by simple?
 
f25274 said:
I don't think I understand what you mean by separating as a function of time
rBA=(2.5-40cos(37)t)i+(4-t(22+40sin37))j
rBA=(2.5-31.945t)i+(4-46.073t)j

:( Is this what you mean by simple?
I'm sorry... you did do the integration. My bad!

The separation is the distance. Now that you have the relative position, how can you express the distance as a function of time? Hint: What's the distance squared?
 
As always when confused, start by drawing a graph. Let's call the position of ship A at time t=0 (0,0,0). That will make the vectors fixed.
 
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