Relativistic Definition of Energy: E=Fd or E=md2/t2?

In summary, classical physics still applies in relativity, and the formulas for mechanical work and energy are still valid, but the other formulas are no longer accurate.
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In classical physics E=Fd and F=ma so E=mad.
a=d/t2 so E=md2/t2
Measurements of d and t will get complicated by Lorentz transformation, so, is E=Fd still a correct definition of energy, or is it a Newtonian approximation which is not accurate at relativistic velocities?
 
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mrspeedybob said:
is E=Fd still a correct definition of energy, or is it a Newtonian approximation which is not accurate at relativistic velocities?

The basic definition E = Fd is still valid in relativity; it just says that a change in energy is produced by exerting a force through a distance (i.e., doing work). (More precisely, this is a change in kinetic energy.) However, the other formulas you give are no longer correct in relativity; they are just Newtonian approximations. For more on the correct definition of force in relativity, see here.
 
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E=Fd is not a definition of energy even in nonrelativistic mechanics. It's an expression for mechanical work, which is one type of energy transfer.

Fundamental conserved quantities like energy do not have single-equation definitions. There is a nice analogy in section 4-1 of the Feynman lectures, where Feynman compares a conservation law to the observation that a bishop on a chessboard is always observed to end up on a square of the same color.
 
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mrspeedybob said:
In classical physics E=Fd and F=ma so E=mad.
a=d/t2 so E=md2/t2
Measurements of d and t will get complicated by Lorentz transformation, so, is E=Fd still a correct definition of energy, or is it a Newtonian approximation which is not accurate at relativistic velocities?

The ##F## in ##F=ma## is the net force on an accelerating object, and plugging it into ##W=Fd## will give you the work done by the net force, which is the kinetic energy not the total energy. You can see this difference if you imagine a mass of one kg being moved one meter by a force of 10 Newtons in one direction while a 9 Newton frictional force is working in against the applied force. The net force will be one Newton and the total kinetic energy will be one joule. However, the total work done by all the forces, and hence the total energy expended, will be 19 joules; the missing 18 joules will show up as heat.

Add in the special relativity stuff, and ##W=Fd## still works as long as you're careful to pick one frame and work in that frame (but you have to be careful to avoid the pitfall of measuring the force in the frame of the accelerated object and the distance in the frame of an observer watching the acceleration). Kinetic energy is ##(\gamma-1)m_0c^2## where ##m_0## is the rest mass of the object. Total energy is given by the relationship ##E^2=(m_0c^2)^2+(pc)^2## where ##p=\gamma{m_0}v## is the momentum.
 

Related to Relativistic Definition of Energy: E=Fd or E=md2/t2?

1. What is the Relativistic Definition of Energy?

The Relativistic Definition of Energy, also known as the Special Relativity formula, is given by E=mc2, where E is energy, m is mass, and c is the speed of light in a vacuum. This equation states that energy and mass are equivalent and can be converted into one another.

2. How is the Relativistic Definition of Energy different from the classical definition?

The Relativistic Definition of Energy takes into account the effects of special relativity, such as time dilation and length contraction, which are not considered in the classical definition. This means that the mass-energy equivalence is only observed at high speeds close to the speed of light, and the classical definition is still applicable at lower speeds.

3. Can the Relativistic Definition of Energy be applied to all types of energy?

Yes, the Relativistic Definition of Energy can be applied to all types of energy, including kinetic energy, potential energy, and rest energy. It is a universal equation that describes the relationship between mass and energy.

4. How is the Relativistic Definition of Energy used in practical applications?

The Relativistic Definition of Energy is used in a variety of practical applications, such as in nuclear power plants, where mass is converted into energy to generate electricity. It is also used in particle accelerators, where particles are accelerated to high speeds and their energy is converted into mass.

5. Is the Relativistic Definition of Energy a proven concept?

Yes, the Relativistic Definition of Energy is a well-established concept that has been extensively tested and proven through experiments and observations. It is a fundamental principle in modern physics and has been successfully applied in various fields such as astrophysics, nuclear physics, and particle physics.

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