Representation theory of supersymmetry

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The discussion centers on the representation theory of supersymmetry, particularly in relation to Lie algebras and the emerging concept of adinkras. Participants explore the mathematical underdevelopment of this theory, its implications for understanding supersymmetry, and the challenges posed by non-compact groups.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the representation theory of supersymmetry is underdeveloped, particularly compared to that of Lie algebras, and mention the role of adinkras in addressing this gap.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the claim that fundamental aspects of supersymmetry remain unknown despite extensive research, questioning the feasibility of developing a comprehensive representation theory in a short time frame.
  • Another participant argues that while supersymmetry is not a group, it is still an algebra, suggesting that a representation theory can be defined, albeit not conveniently.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the complexities of representation theory for non-compact Lie groups, including issues with infinite-dimensional irreducible representations and the lack of a natural inner product.
  • A participant mentions that the literature in this field often contains conjectures and computational ideas rather than solid results, recommending works by Yang Zhang for a more rigorous approach.

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Participants express a mix of skepticism and intrigue regarding the state of representation theory in supersymmetry. There is no consensus on the extent of its development or the implications of this underdevelopment.

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Participants highlight the challenges associated with non-compact groups and the complexities involved in developing a general representation theory, indicating that many assumptions and definitions remain unresolved.

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"Lie algebras have had a tremendous impact in theoretical physics... the Jordan-Chevalley decomposition is at the heart of the representation theory of Lie algebras.
"Little in the context of spacetime supersymmetry compares to the comprehensive nature of the representation theory achieved for Lie algebras. Two Casimir operators, the “superspin” and “mass,” are often used to provide a basis for classification. But these provide at best a partial classification. We have been developing the theory of adinkras to fill this gap." -- S.J. Gates and 12 other authors, "On the Four Dimensional Holoraumy of the 4D, N = 1 Complex Linear Supermultiplet"
I had heard of adinkras but didn't realize that they were meant to play this role. Nor did I realize that the representation theory of supersymmetry is mathematically underdeveloped.
 
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This is fascinating, although it sounds a bit hard to believe. There are thousands of people who for for decades on topics related to supersymmetry, but still the fundamentals are still relatively unknown? I think one problem is that representation theory works for groups and Lie algebra, but supersymmetry is neither.
 
jakob1111 said:
... but supersymmetry is neither.
It's still an algebra and thus a representation theory is defined. Maybe not a convenient one. If you're interested in the subject, have a look on Virasoro algebras.
 
mitchell porter said:
I had heard of adinkras but didn't realize that they were meant to play this role. Nor did I realize that the representation theory of supersymmetry is mathematically underdeveloped.
I (really) am not an expert on this, but to hear that the representation theory of SUSY spacetime is underdeveloped does not a priori surprise me as - from my limited understanding - this probably involves non-compact groups, and the representation theory for e.g. general non-compact Lie groups is immensely harder than for "nice" (e.g. compact) Lie groups and is still underdeveloped within pure mathematics!

In particular, the irreps generally become infinite-dimensional, there is no natural inner product between irreps which could be used in some analogue of Schur orthogonality relations (which are extremely useful in the study of representations of compact or finite groups), etc. The irreps for non-compact Lie groups are built up case-by-case and the general theory is still unknown - in stark contrast to the representation theory of compact Lie groups which is well understood. Adinkras, as used in the paper, are probably one of the case-by-case constructions (I did not read the paper yet, but this is my guess from what you quoted).

jakob1111 said:
This is fascinating, although it sounds a bit hard to believe. There are thousands of people who for for decades on topics related to supersymmetry, but still the fundamentals are still relatively unknown?
Mathematicians have been studying Lie groups for over a hundred years and they still don't have a general representation theory for non-compact Lie groups. What makes you think that physicists could so easily crack this in a mere few decades?

P.S. I work in physics, but I took some courses in group theory at the mathematics department at our university and that is the source of my information.
 
Here is the quick idea of Adinkras.

I feel at times that publications in this field tend to have a high ratio of repeated conjectures and computational ideas over hard results. For a reading experience closer to the usual practice in mathematical physics I recommend the articles by Yang Zhang
 
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